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Offline Pete G.

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Old breeching technique ???
« on: February 24, 2009, 01:47:07 AM »
I read in "A Forgotten Heritage" about a technique I had never heard of before. The author stated that the breech of the barrel was heated and a plug that already been threaded by hand file was inserted in the end. The smith then hammered the barrel around the plug until he got the fit he needed. I had never heard of this before so I went to the Dillon book to look it up. The only thing that I could find there said that the breech pin was installed with hand tools, which neither confirms nor contradicts. I can see where a tap could be a rare commodity in an isolated gunshop, and can't ever remember seeing anything other than a screw plate listed in any inventories. So what do you think guys ? Maybe ? Maybe not ?

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Re: Old breeching technique ???
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 02:19:29 AM »
I say not if you have a screw plate and can make screws you can make taps.
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Re: Old breeching technique ???
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 03:58:19 AM »
I suspect that the threads on the breechplug would be deformed in the process and would not be easy to remove (without using a hacksaw, smokeless powder, etc.).
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Re: Old breeching technique ???
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 05:58:28 AM »
I read in "A Forgotten Heritage" about a technique I had never heard of before. The author stated that the breech of the barrel was heated and a plug that already been threaded by hand file was inserted in the end. The smith then hammered the barrel around the plug until he got the fit he needed. I had never heard of this before so I went to the Dillon book to look it up. The only thing that I could find there said that the breech pin was installed with hand tools, which neither confirms nor contradicts. I can see where a tap could be a rare commodity in an isolated gunshop, and can't ever remember seeing anything other than a screw plate listed in any inventories. So what do you think guys ? Maybe ? Maybe not ?

BS.
Hammering it would LOOSEN the fit unless more complex mechanics were used than what one would find in a gunsmith shop.

Dan
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Re: Old breeching technique ???
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 07:24:15 AM »
I did a lot of blacksmithing and I am sure that is totally wrong. Sounds like another self appointed expert.
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Offline B Shipman

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Re: Old breeching technique ???
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 08:25:36 AM »
This sounds like a total load of bull. Actually it is a total laod of bull.  Trying to make something mysterious out of of a job that really requires cut and try to achieve quality.

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Re: Old breeching technique ???
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 02:17:37 PM »
It does not sound like something that would work to me, backed up with opinions from individuals whose experience I can respect.

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Re: Old breeching technique ???
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2009, 04:29:46 PM »
I say not if you have a screw plate and can make screws you can make taps.
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Re: Old breeching technique ???
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2009, 06:13:13 PM »
Actually, if you have some carbon steel, you could "hand file" the tap, and then make a screw plate with it to thread the matching breech pin.

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Re: Old breeching technique ???
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2009, 07:01:11 PM »
I agree with all of you on how preposterous it would be. That said, you know some Darwin Award winner along the way must have tried it.
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Re: Old breeching technique ???
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2009, 07:41:23 PM »
Actually. you wouldn't believe how long they have been making screws on lathes.  John Twigg in his shop in England had 12 lathes. Lathes go back to ancient Egypt
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