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Lehigh patchbox covers ???
« on: April 17, 2015, 06:45:53 PM »
Did any Lehigh guns, rifled or smooth have wood covers on box ?  ....Tom

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Re: Lehigh patchbox covers ???
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2015, 07:03:34 PM »
Yes, there are some great Lehigh rifles that have wooden patchboxes.  Neihart seemed to use them more often than other makers.  They're long and somewhat narrower than you'd see on other styles.  IIRC, there's a rifle attributed to Neihart in "Kentucky Rifles & Pistols 1750-1850" that has a wooden patchbox. 
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Re: Lehigh patchbox covers ???
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2015, 07:53:56 PM »
Thanks Eric......Tom

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Re: Lehigh patchbox covers ???
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Re: Lehigh patchbox covers ???
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2015, 09:08:07 PM »
Yep, I have one! Probably 1780/90's period. The cover is original to the gun, about 1 1/4" wide and 4 3/4 long. It sits up about .200" above the plane of the stock at the butt end.
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Re: Lehigh patchbox covers ???
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2015, 01:26:51 AM »
The wood box lid hung on longer here than most other places.  Well into the 19th century.

David Cooke's flintlock rifle.  Probably near 1830, I'd guess.
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Re: Lehigh patchbox covers ???
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2015, 02:40:38 PM »
The wood box lid hung on longer here than most other places.  Well into the 19th century.

David Cooke's flintlock rifle.  Probably near 1830, I'd guess.


Too much drop for me but I do like the style and stark simplicity of this rifle.

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Re: Lehigh patchbox covers ???
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2015, 04:38:37 PM »
love the barn find gun. so simple. also noticed the red color on the picture of the tang. looks like most of the finish has worn off with use. Eric-what do you think? Dragons blood or madder root?

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Re: Lehigh patchbox covers ???
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2015, 05:18:50 PM »
I don't know if you mean Eric K or Eric V, so I'll share my thoughts - I have some of the closeup photos from the auction and I don't believe it had a colored varnish.  At least if it did, it doesn't anymore.  Bill Knight did some great research and believes a lot of the red coloration we see in old stocks is likely caused by a reaction between aquafortis and the linseed oil based finishes applied.  Certainly linseed finishes age to an amber/reddish color, and I think that's what we see on this one and lots of others. 
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Re: Lehigh patchbox covers ???
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2015, 04:24:46 AM »
That's the color I get with Aqua Fortis and linseed oil.

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