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Offline Shreckmeister

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Christian Hawken rifle
« on: January 23, 2016, 12:45:04 AM »
I may be nuts, but does anyone else think the Christian Hawken rifle in the library looks like a Bedford rifle?
Could it be a restocked barrel?  Anyone have photos of other works by him?

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=4545.0
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Re: Christian Hawken rifle
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2016, 12:58:13 AM »
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Re: Christian Hawken rifle
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2016, 01:26:24 AM »
Rob,
I owned that rifle for a while, a nice rifle. It's the same rifle in the link Dennis posted from Simens website. Some say the Bedford makers were influenced by the Maryland makers.

Dennis,
The 1st rifle (link) is a Schweitzer. I am pretty sure of it, I have an identical rifle with a similar patch box. The carving is almost identical to my rifle.

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Re: Christian Hawken rifle
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2016, 11:40:57 PM »
There are a lot of Bedford qualities on this gun. I have seen some of these features on guns from other areas, but not the distinctive hammer. Most guns with this type of hammer are Bedfords. IMO.

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Re: Christian Hawken rifle
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2016, 03:58:17 AM »
Hungry Horse,
The Hawken was originally flint and the double triggers (originally had a single trigger) and trigger guard were a later addition that was installed in the Armstrong shop. I might be wrong but the proper progression (I believe) is the Bedford rifles contain many Maryland features.

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Re: Christian Hawken rifle
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2016, 05:32:23 PM »
Quote from: Buck on January 24, 2016, 03:58:17 AM
Hungry Horse,
The Hawken was originally flint and the double triggers (originally had a single trigger) and trigger guard were a later addition that was installed in the Armstrong shop. I might be wrong but the proper progression (I believe) is the Bedford rifles contain many Maryland features.

Buck




I believe that the Bedford  evolved out of the earlier Maryland rifles.
As you indicate, those saying that the Maryland rifles look like Bedfords need to instead say that Bedford rifles look like Maryland rifles. Look to Armstrong's locks.

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Re: Christian Hawken rifle
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2016, 06:52:05 PM »
So what happened to the rifle in question. The one Shreck posted; http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=4545.0

There were pictures the other day, but all I see now are x's instead of pictures?

John
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Re: Christian Hawken rifle
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2016, 07:28:08 PM »
Ditto that, John.
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Re: Christian Hawken rifle
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2016, 07:38:43 PM »
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