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Edge Binding on Shooting Pouch
« on: April 21, 2016, 12:54:47 AM »
Can anyone describe the method by which edge binding is stitched to the edge of the flap on a shooting pouch? I have T.C. Albert's book (an excellent book, by the way) but it doesn't really cover this. On another post he briefly explained that it's very thin veg tan leather and he uses keeper stitches. I'm still a little unsure how to proceed. I got some very thin 1/2 oz. veg tanned goat leather which should work, but I'm wondering how to get started.

1. Do I cut a strip of leather for the binding long enough and just wide enough to bind my edge? Or should it be a little too wide an then trimmed back to the stitching once it's been stitched?

2. Should I mark the stitch locations with an overstitch wheel or do they get laid out with calipers after it's been held in place with the keeper stitches?

I should probably just start experimenting but I hate to destroy good leather. I was hoping maybe an expert here could describe the process. I appreciate any input.
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Re: Edge Binding on Shooting Pouch
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2016, 05:35:14 AM »
Are you talking simple folded edge binding or rolled edge binding? One is pretty straight forward the other gets a touch more involved
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Re: Edge Binding on Shooting Pouch
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2016, 03:26:27 PM »
I guess that's how little I know about binding an edge. I just want to finish an edge on a lined pouch flap. I just did a quick google search and think what I'm looking for is a more simple folded edge binding.
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Re: Edge Binding on Shooting Pouch
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2016, 02:40:18 AM »
OK then. To answer your questions.

1. Do I cut a strip of leather for the binding long enough and just wide enough to bind my edge? Or should it be a little too wide an then trimmed back to the stitching once it's been stitched?

You have the general idea how it works here. Simply cut your binding wide enough to fit the stitches and bind the layers of material you wish bound. Unless you have the tooling to properly trim the binding, it's best to just sew it as close to the edge as you can right from the get go.

2. Should I mark the stitch locations with an overstitch wheel or do they get laid out with calipers after it's been held in place with the keeper stitches?

Overstitch wheesl can make the stitches more uniform, but are not absolutely required. It's actually easier than you might imagine to use the awl blade width as a gauge to space your stitches. Calipers could be used but it seems they would be more hassle than practical. Also keep in mind that a lot of leather work was sewn with some pretty tight spacing, many times 10 or more stitches per inch, but not universally so.

And yes, experiment. Nothing is better than doing and making yourself do better. So in the end you aren't wasting anything and you can always use scrap pieces to practice on.
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Re: Edge Binding on Shooting Pouch
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2016, 03:04:35 AM »
I used the same leather as the body of the pouch.  Cut a strip long enough to reach all the way around first and then I skived it a little thinner.  Then using a wheel I marked the stitch line on both edges of the strip; folded the strip in half and punched those holes through both sides.  Be careful to make the slant of the holes uniform.  I also marked with the wheel and punched the holes to match on the flap itself.  From there it is just a double needle stitch routine to fasten things together.  Be careful to cross the needles through the holes on the same side of the thread line each time for a uniform stitch line.  I am not the best leather worker but I found this pretty easy to do in this manner.   I am sure there are about as many ways as there are makers.  I also used waxed linen tread for the stitches.

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Re: Edge Binding on Shooting Pouch
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2016, 03:01:38 PM »
Thanks for all the replies, very helpful information. Hopefully this weekend I can get some bindings cut and start stitching.
K.C. Clem
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Re: Edge Binding on Shooting Pouch
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2016, 05:41:48 PM »
Only thing I'd add is for me, marking out with a wheel in advance can cause trouble, especially in veg tan binding leather where the marks are permanent. If the bag has a rounded bottom, as the binding is applied around the curve the spacing can get funky and the pre-marked holes a nuisance. Working by eye, using the awl blade for a guide as suggested till you develop an eye for it may be the way to go...
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Re: Edge Binding on Shooting Pouch
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2016, 07:30:41 PM »
Well, I lined the flap of my pouch project and bound the edge with 2 oz. goat leather. It actually turned out better than I expected, I was pretty happy with it. I got the hang of stitching pretty good and was moving right along, mostly without the overstitch wheel. That was a good tip, I found it much quicker and easier to just space the stitches by eye.

I probably could have finished the bag in one day. I cut some straps but didn't have any buckles on hand to get it completely done. I wanted to find some hand forged iron buckles but didn't really find a good source. I ended up ordering some buckles from a couple places and will figure out which looks best and finish the bag. I ordered some from Crazy Crow Trading Post and some from Avalon Forge. If anyone has a good source for buckles, I'd sure like to know about it.

Thanks again for all the tips.
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Re: Edge Binding on Shooting Pouch
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2016, 10:58:50 PM »
KC,
 I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for. I haven't used their buckles yet, but I've used one of their tomahawks for over 25 years and the quality is great.

http://www.hbforge.com/belts-buckles


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Re: Edge Binding on Shooting Pouch
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2016, 05:05:58 AM »