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newknapper

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Half stock rifle question
« on: June 15, 2016, 12:41:11 AM »
I am just curious were half stock rifles normally cap locks or were they flint lock rifles also. I am new to all this so forgive my ignorance. The reason why I ask is I would like my next rifle to be one of these but don't know much about them.

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2016, 01:06:54 AM »

     I don't  think you can go wrong with a late haff stock flinter.
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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2016, 08:02:56 AM »
Mostly percussion

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2016, 02:29:10 PM »
You'll see a few very late period 1/2 stock flint guns in places like NC. ca. 1830's.
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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2016, 06:14:02 PM »
There was one built in Texas www.texasguntrade.com/texassportingrilfes.htm 1840's I think?

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2016, 06:41:57 PM »
These two were built in British Columbia.



This one in Montana.
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newknapper

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2016, 10:52:14 PM »
These two were built in British Columbia.



This one in Montana.



The top rifle is kinda what I had in my mind, but with iron hardware and no patch box.

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2016, 10:55:35 PM »
These two were built in British Columbia.



This one in Montana.


My choice is the bottom one.Looks more English and I have one started if I ever
finish it. Barrel is in the wood and lock can be cobbled together from bits and pieces
laying around on the bench. Butt plate and trigger guard are in a drawer.

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The top rifle is kinda what I had in my mind, but with iron hardware and no patch box.

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2016, 01:58:17 AM »
Here is another half stock made like an English  rifle that was built in England during the war of 1812 you will have to click on the rifle picture and go way down to see it but it's worth the trip and all the beautiful rifles you'll have to look at before you get there. http://jwh-flintlocks.net

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2016, 02:36:04 AM »
These two were built in British Columbia.



This one in Montana.


My choice is the bottom one.Looks more English and I have one started if I ever
finish it. Barrel is in the wood and lock can be cobbled together from bits and pieces
laying around on the bench. Butt plate and trigger guard are in a drawer.

Bob Roller

My choice too, Bob. That is the English .16 bore, that Dphar built a number of years back. It's a deer killing machine.
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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2016, 02:54:01 AM »
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It's a deer killing machine.

Yup.  It just about kills Dan too, every time he pulls the trigger.

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2016, 09:31:59 PM »
Could I get a little more info about the middle one?That skinny short little forend is very appealing.

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2016, 01:52:32 PM »
There is a Joseph Manton half stock fowler at the NRA museum housed inside Bass Pros shops in Springfield, MO. It is a beautiful piece and is an excellent example that shows half stock flintlocks were made during the early 19th century in Great Britain. Here is a link to a video showing this elegant piece.

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2016, 02:20:05 PM »
Look up an old post by Captchee here,theres a fine looking original flint half stock from a Texas collection but probable made in the East by Erickson.
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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2016, 03:40:39 AM »
Let's not forget the M1803 Harpers Ferry .54 cal half stock rifle.Track does a pretty nice kit of it.

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2016, 01:47:27 AM »
Capt'n John G.W. Dillin (y'all remember him?) Laidacker Collection, Plates 7 & 8, #1 & 2
C.T. Stahl and I.G. Wren, late half-stock "Kentucky" rifles.

Flint New England, specifically Massachusetts, rifles were commonly 1/2 stock.

Believe this topic was discussed here earlier, some time in the last coupla years.

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2016, 02:18:10 AM »
I'm sorry, but the gun somehippy is integumentary with, looks to me like it was the victim of some building mishap that left very little forearm to work with. The stumpy forearm with the rear sight perched forward of the nosecap doesn't look like a design anybody actually planned.

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Re: Half stock rifle question
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2016, 08:35:42 PM »
Ah, I see.  Thought i looked a little "off" somehow.  Being new to all this I wasn't sure if it was recreated from some "school" or not.  However that sounds like a reasonable explanation to me Hungry H orse.  Neat looking none the less, to me anyway lol.