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Offline Dennis Glazener

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Another fantasy rifle
« on: September 20, 2016, 06:31:54 PM »
Reading about 54ball's fantasy rifle reminded me that I never posted photos of the fantasy rifle that Ed Wenger built for me a couple of years ago.

My 4th GGF, Samuel King Sr. was from Bedford County VA and during the American Revolution he served with Col. Daniel Morgan's 11th and 15th Virginia Regiments. I had always wanted to build a rifle based on a very early southern rifle that could have looked like something Samuel King might have carried with him to war.

I talked to Earl Lanning about RCA #124 which is a very early rifle that Earl had come across in Waynesville NC years ago. Earl had told me the story of how he came to own it and gave me an old photo he had made of it before he sold the rifle. Except for the funky looking incised carving it looked like the type of rifle I wanted to build.

On our old ALR board Earl made a comment to Rich Pierce
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This rifle (RCA #124) was in the KRA York show many years ago. Wallace wrote the card for the rifle. And it was a great one. He stated that he felt that it was the best example of the type rifle Morgans rifleman would have carried he had ever seen.I always dated it just before or in the early years of the Rev.War. Nice swamp in the barrel.


Well that sealed it for me, this was the rifle I would build.

I started buying parts for it. At one time I had a Colonial Williamsburg hand rifled barrel inlet in a nice walnut blank plus most of the other parts. Bought an Early Ketland lock and had Al Edge copy the #124 engraving on it. In a weak moment I sold the walnut blank/barrel thinking I needed a different profile. Later I bought one of Rice's 54 Caliber VA Profiles (VA barrel for a VA rifle!). At the time I was building a lot of Gillespie rifles and kept putting off starting mine.

After several years I decided to ask Ed Wenger to build the rifle, I had always wanted one of Ed's rifles and it didn't look like I was going to build my fantasy rifle anytime soon so I got with Ed and showed him what I wanted. I knew I didn't want the funky incised carving that #124 has so I asked Ed to come up with some simple carving that would be simple and go with this rifle.

Had a scare in the middle of the project, Ed called to tell me that he had run into a bark inclusion/worm holes while working on the butt/cheek rest area of the stock. I had furnished the Walnut blank and it looked solid but inside was a different story. I told Ed to just make the best repairs he could. Fortunately he was able to clear most of the damage but you can see a couple of worm holes where the inclusion was.

Here is the end result, I love it and think Ed did a great job with it.








Photo by Mark E. Elliott

Photo by Mark E. Elliott

Photo by Mark E. Elliott

Photo by Mark E. Elliott                            Lock engraving by Al Edge

Photo by Mark E. Elliott

« Last Edit: September 20, 2016, 06:44:09 PM by Dennis Glazener »
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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2016, 07:01:42 PM »
Thanks for posting this Dennis.  Ed has created a particularly nice piece here.  It is entirely believable.  The walnut has a lovely rich colour.
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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2016, 08:08:45 PM »
Great work based on a favorite original.
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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2016, 09:25:20 PM »
 Great rifle, really like the profile and the thickness.


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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2016, 11:36:04 PM »
Fine looking rifle. Ed does some great work. I don't see anything wrong about the wood at all....what's a couple worm holes?
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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2016, 01:34:12 AM »
He did an outstanding job. I love the color. Worm holes is just where some character eased in.
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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2016, 02:15:41 AM »
Awesome 

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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2016, 02:30:30 AM »
Nice rifle ! 124 has always been one of my favorites.

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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2016, 02:40:27 AM »
Beautiful gunne Dennis, Ed did you proud. Love that cherry stock.

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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2016, 02:42:16 AM »
Beautiful, fanciful gun. It should be much coveted.  But without causing a new controversy, is that a lead wrap holding the flint. ;D  Love it!!!!!
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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2016, 02:57:26 AM »
 Mr. Glazener,

 Wonderful rifle!

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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2016, 03:02:07 AM »
Thanks for the compliments,  yes Ed did a nice job.

PPatch, not cherry, its Virginia grown American Walnut.

Bill its not lead, its leather.
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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2016, 03:31:42 AM »
That is an elegant rifle.

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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2016, 03:46:37 AM »
Very nice.. Saved the tang carving pic I'm going to incorporate that in my MS Virginia vey appropriate.

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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2016, 03:56:34 AM »
Very nice Dennis. I'm jealous. Ed did an excellent job an Mark for his pictures.

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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2016, 04:04:01 AM »
Very beautiful

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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2016, 04:23:27 AM »
That is lovely -

Denis, you could always let Mike slap it with his truck keys a time or so or maybe just lay it in the pick-up box for a few days - just to age it a bit. Looks purddy green! (unused)
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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2016, 04:44:23 AM »
It's a new rifle.  When I buy a new truck, I always get the guys in the shop to get in and out for an hour or two, and bang their tools around on the new paint, to add some fair wear and tear - patina!  Gives it that lived in look with patina that otherwise takes years to accomplish.
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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2016, 05:01:09 AM »
I really like it!
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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2016, 12:41:23 PM »
I really like the carving at the tang, simple, but really sets it off.  The color of the stock is really nice also.
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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2016, 08:02:58 PM »
That was a fun rifle to build.  I've since thought on more than one occasion that I need to do one for myself, but you know how that goes...  Great photos, Mark!



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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2016, 02:13:33 AM »
That is a beauty Ed and Dennis.  Great lines.

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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2016, 05:12:44 PM »
Really beautiful rifle!! Love the Walnut Stock.

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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2016, 06:28:15 PM »
Very nice work.  I like that a lot.

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Re: Another fantasy rifle
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2016, 07:24:01 PM »
Beautiful work Gentlemen. Thanks for posting.
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