Chunk gun/ Target gun Barrels

[45-110]

that is true, but he did mention "target gun" which could include a wide array of options. a lot of the smaller clubs and fun shoots can be less formal on what you bring to a match.

[Squirrel pizza]

Actually I was describing two different rifles. One, a bullet gun fast twist with a false muzzle. The second was a round ball shooting chunk gun I hope to have ready for the Sgt. York shoot in march.

[little joe]

If you have the skill a 1in. 50 cal  x 42in bbl  will be plenty of barrel.1986 Indiana Levi Garrett a shooter shot a 50 with 5x.s at 100 yds cross stick match. My honor to wittness this target.

[Squirrel pizza]

Little Joe that sounds like a fine display of marksmanship, and I'm sure you're right about that size barrel being sufficient to put lead in the X ring, as I've stated I have several Douglas XX barrels that are tack drivers. But you are missing my point. Which is to faithfully, or as nearly as I can, recreate a New York heavy barreled target rifle circa 1855-1865. Have you ever seen one? They generally have an obscenely fat bohunkin' barrel with a false muzzle. Would you put a round barrel in a Lancaster Pa rifle. No. Why?

[Squirrel pizza]

Well folks I spoke with Charlie Burton this morning and it seems my quest is at the dreaded Time/Money point. But it sounds like he can hook me up with what my heart desires! Thanks for the help. Thats not to say I wouldn't be interested if somebody had a bohunker laying around unused.

[Kermit]

My chunk gun has a 54" x .54 cal x 1-1/2" ATF barrel. Weighs 33lbs complete. Managable, and I'm old.

[Squirrel pizza]

I love you Kermit! If you reach a point where its no longer fun, let me know. I'll trade with you or come paint your house.

[bgf]

I'd advise treating the NY target rifle and chunk gun as two different projects.  There's traditions in chunk as well and fads and things that work.  A puny 1 3/8" 44+" .50 will not be any sort of handicap in chunk, and you'll be better equipped than many (most?) at the York Shoot, which is approximately (my guess)  30% frequent/regular chunk shooters, while many more only shoot chunk matches once or twice a year.  I've talked to several folks who only shoot at pall Mall...  Depending on where you live and how much chunk you've shot, maybe just use what you've got for York and see if you like it and if there's a good number of chunk shoots you're likely to attend...  Practice and experience are more important than the rifle, however, so if you like chunk and still want to build that type of rifle, I can't see any reason not to, and you'll have better ideas on details with a few chunk matches under your belt.

[Squirrel pizza]

BGF, if you look a couple posts above you'll see I am talking about two different guns. I've shot the York match and many others. I've even won a few. I live in Cumberland County Tennessee. Pall Mall is 40 minutes away. I don't mean to sound rude but if you have read my posts under this thread you have missed the point, as I've tried to make it clear what I was looking for and why.

[bgf]

Pardon my reading comprehension. I defer to your expertise.

[delivered]

Did a gun a couple of years ago for a fellow that wanted a rifle like described in the book by Tom McKnney called "Jack Hinson's ONE-MAN WAR". The book had a pretty good description of the rifle. I had Ed Rayl make me a 41" x 1 3/8
50 cal with a 1:24 twist to shoot a conical bullet. It looked like a Southern Mt rifle w/ forged butt plate and trigger guard.  It weighed around 18#. It shot pretty good but have a hard time believing some of the shots with open sights describe in the book!
I will try and post some pictures of the finished gun tomorrow.
 

[little joe]

A man should build what he wants, the last Burton  bbl I ordered we were looking at 6 mos.and it took 8, nothing special a light tapered bbl.however well worth the wait. Pall Mall  is about 6 mos. away and you need look at at delivery time on parts, build time and sighting and tuning and If you don,t shoot chunk I,m sure you have to master that also. Possibly in Tenn. you would not have the weather we have in Indiana as that would interfear with practice and possibly building time. The reason I suggested a 1 in. bbl was the versility of it. Cross stick. bench. chunk and if you are able off hand.A friend mine shoots a 1 in. .45 cal. 42 in. long off hand. Too muck gun for this old guy. I would have to shoot for Pall Mall 2018

[Squirrel pizza]

When I spoke to Charlie about a barrel he said about 6 months, that for the fast twist with false muzzle. His price seemed more than fair, and as the N.Y. Target gun is project #2 I don't mind the wait. Round ball barrels are a lot easier to come by, though maybe not exactly what I have in mind. Even if I don't get her done by March I have a couple rifles I believe could make a respectable showing. My golf gun would do in a pinch. The rifle is capable of more than I am. But I still have fun!

[Squirrel pizza]

BGF I'm not claiming any experise. I know what I like, I know what I'd like to build. I'm just looking for something particular. It may sound odd ball but thats ok. I also think a Nock Volly Gun. Looks like fun and would love to have one. May not be your cup of tea but doesn't make it wrong. My best to you.

[Dphariss]

Little Joe that sounds like a fine display of marksmanship, and I'm sure you're right about that size barrel being sufficient to put lead in the X ring, as I've stated I have several Douglas XX barrels that are tack drivers. But you are missing my point. Which is to faithfully, or as nearly as I can, recreate a New York heavy barreled target rifle circa 1855-1865. Have you ever seen one? They generally have an obscenely fat bohunkin' barrel with a false muzzle. Would you put a round barrel in a Lancaster Pa rifle. No. Why?

Or they are turned for a guide starter and shoot picket bullets.
If you are talking about Horace Warner type stuff they were REALLY heavy 25 pounds and up and were dedicated target rifles. These also require platinum lined nipples or nipple replacement every 5-10 rounds. Its a good idea for picket rifles too...
This is a Wm Moore Rochester NY. Shortened about 4" at the breech sometime in the past, the patent breech lost with the cutting and a drum and nipple installed. Barrel is tapered and still over  about 1 3/8" at the breech its 42 caliber and turned for a guide starter for picket bullets. Starter is long gone of course.....
 

[Squirrel pizza]

Lovely rifle Dphariss! Just my cup of Pappy Van Winkle! I had one very similar in .40. Strange thing about that rifle was it shot 10mm JHP pistol ammo as well as anything else I tried. But the rifling was kinda' weak. Thought about reboring or having it lined but sold it to a purist who wanted to keep it original. Seemed like a good idea at the time. Wish I knew then what I know now about trading guns you figure you can replace tomorrow.