Hi, sorry it took so long to answer your question. I've been off line for a few days. The basic technique is to pound the drift in a 16th or so and pull it back out . Continue same little by little until it goes through the underlug. After it has gone in a ways a pair of pliers is needed to pull it back out. You can go in from both sides if you are worried about blowout. The little one I made 40 years ago and has broken off several times. Made of stainless, not a good choice, but that's what I had at the time. A good grade of tool steel would be best and tempered. The larger one could have used more taper. The smooth section is the size of the keys being used. You can also use a smaller piece of metal to push the tool back out of the hole each time instead of the pliers but you need caution not to mushroom or damage the end.[img]. Ok , a little help here. I'm sending this from my tablet and don't seem to be able to send picture. I'm also using a rotary phone , but that's another issue.