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Offline Nordnecker

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Design consideration
« on: December 31, 2016, 05:23:38 PM »
I find examples of rifles with carving and no beavertails or secondary lock panel moulding, but it appears that rifles with beavertails always have carving. It almost seams necessary to have a secondary moulding to define the beavertails. The secondary moulding follows the panel forward, up the wood behind the barrel and around the tang. It also appears that this line connects to the carving around the tang. I can see where a symetrical carving lends itself to tying in with this line, but an asymetrical carving would only connect on one side. Is this right?

I realize this is probably a difficult question to answer.
The rifle I am building now I had hoped to use beavertails but had not planned to carve. Now I'm thinking this might not be appropriate.
Please share your thoughts on this.
Thanks in advance. 
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Re: Design consideration
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2016, 09:09:22 PM »
I can see where a symetrical carving lends itself to tying in with this line, but an asymetrical carving would only connect on one side. Is this right?

I think the line should connect on both sides even if the carving is asymmetrical.  Example:



As for having lock panel beavertails but no carving around the tang, you could have the molding line come up from the beavertail and then have the line gradually fade away as it approaches the tang area.

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Re: Design consideration
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2016, 10:13:13 PM »
 Maybe this will help. Maybe not.
 In my opinion on originals you will see trends not rules. Each rifle was an individual and as such was it's decoration. It was up to the maker to decide how much or how little. My limited study of originals confirms this, at least for me.
 
 Keep in mind this is looking at many rifles by different makers from 1770 to about 1800. So this is very general or if you will.....the general trends. As a whole you will see all kinds of stuff. Enough for me to say...there are no absolutes in beavertail and tang finals or lack there of.

 This may different if you are studying a particular school and specific maker.

 In my opinion a rifle with forestock moulding, buttstock moulding(these can be be simple incised lines), beavertail lock panel finials and a sculpted cheek piece but without Rococo carving really captures the "trend of a Colonial rifle"...much more so than a plain straight up build devoid of any decoration. 

 With that said it goes back to the rifle and the maker. It's always about the rifle...the rifle. The rifle must be done right as far as architecture. Never sacrifice that for decoration.

 What I'm getting at is don't force anything. Do what you feel comfortable with. If you want to do beaver tails without tang decoration by all means do it. Do what you can do and do it well.

 Lastly, don't be afraid to do new things. You can do very simple things. Look at Mike Brook's work. Look how simple some of his decoration is, especially the tang. Sometimes it's just a simple shape with some incised lines and chip carved with a small gouge. It's simple but it captures the trend of that style he is emulating. Now he can do much much more but a lot of the times less is more.