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Offline tim crowe

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Re: Round Barreled longrifles
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2017, 04:31:06 AM »
  The barrel is forge welded round then forged octagon after the welding is done. Trying to make the barrel octagon as you weld would be a battle as you try and weld up the barrel. Notice in the video his is rolling the barrel to forge it all over. Sometimes to close up cracks in the WI.

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Re: Round Barreled longrifles
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2017, 05:47:12 AM »
The last 3 barrels I forged with the Old Troll Bookie in the Hallowed Halls of Toad Hall are forged round due to welding as rolling the barrel back and forth creates a round barrel. Flats are forged after all the barrel is welded up.

Thanks Tim.  Learned something today.
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Re: Round Barreled longrifles
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2017, 05:56:40 AM »
If anyone of you has a chance to forge a barrel in person with hammer in hand , take it . There are nuances that are hard to explain that have to be experienced.

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Re: Round Barreled longrifles
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2017, 09:13:01 AM »
 Tim. I forged a few locks and other things but never a barrel. What is he using for flux and does he apply it before the heat or after or both.  I use to use plain white sand and calcined Borax. 
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Re: Round Barreled longrifles
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2017, 03:41:44 PM »
Jerry,
I believe in the video at CW they use Borax but that would be a question for them .To give credit where credit is due Steve Bookout has taught myself and others to use 20 mule team borax but the last time I was at the Hallow Halls of Toad Hall we used Ez Weld. Personally I didn't care for it, Bookie had Angus and I use it to see how it affected the welding process. I think Ez Weld has sand in it among other things. I have welded WI without any flux but conditions have to be right.  I would rather use Borax and help things along. As others have said it is a lot of work to loose all that work due to a bad weld or having to rework the barrel due to not using Flux (Borax.) Good pure WI with no junk in it is a dream to weld, but not every piece of WI is created equal using wagon rims. I am always looking for good rims , farm fields, flea markets etc. There are some good books on the Subject . Smart Dog mentioned Portuguese Book" The Espingarda Perfeyta ", I would add"The Search for the Indian Trade Gun" by Bob Heath,the book really should have been called (Fundamentals of WI and forge welding gun barrels). Both books are a gold mine of info . I have read them several times and realized later what the books were talking about when i was in the forge.  Rich if this needs to split off , I realize it strayed from Old Fords original post.