Volume II, Johnson's Illinois book, he has Horace listed as a gunsmith in Cairo 1880 census, age 26 born in Ohio. He had his brother Frank Ince age 22, living with him & Frank was a tinsmith. On the following page some pictures of two halfstocks , one triple stamped H. E. Ince, on the barrel. One has a pistol grip like some of the old shotguns had. One has a simple commode seat patchbox.