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Offline jdm

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interesting patch box
« on: May 21, 2017, 07:06:18 PM »
I can't remember if I posted pictures of this here before. It would have been years ago. This is on a rifle by one of the Young family of Easton  Pa. I  always thought it was a little different and interesting and some of you might like to see it.  Jim



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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2017, 07:32:48 PM »
That's a great box!  I love it.
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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2017, 08:17:11 PM »
I like that box, it's different!
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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2017, 10:34:19 PM »
That's a great one!
And I love the way they depicted dogs back then!
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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2017, 02:12:40 AM »
A friend has a early Henry Deringer rifle  that  has the same dog engraved on the patch box lid. The box is completely different but the dog is the same. I believe  Deringer apprenticed or worked with with the young family in his early years.
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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2017, 03:18:13 AM »
Very cool. When do you think it was made?
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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2017, 05:39:08 AM »
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Very cool. When do you think it was made?


Henry Young died in 1785. John Young and his son both died three months apart in 1813.  The work on the gun , to me, looks like Henry  Young's  however  I don't think the rifle is pre eighteen hundred . So it is probably John's work.   I would date it 1800 -1813 by my guess.  Jim
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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2017, 05:37:40 PM »
This has features Fainot used. A side opening patchbox in a surround with the surround extending across the buttstock at the buttplate. Looks very sturdy also.
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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2017, 07:46:56 PM »
Sure like to see the rest of it too.
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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2017, 03:01:15 AM »
A "captured box". Great rifle Jim.

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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2017, 03:46:11 PM »
Jim I had forgot this rifle. Post a few other shots,  LP

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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2017, 01:16:14 AM »
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Jim I had forgot this rifle. Post a few other shots,  LP

Did you want pictures of John Young's work ?  OR yours from twenty years ago when you did some restoration.
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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2017, 01:33:15 AM »
I sure don't want mine ....LP

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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2017, 02:03:41 AM »
 This rifle was used hard and had some very poor restoration done . It could not be left in the condition it was in. The worst parts of the restoration  I had ( after some begging ) redone By Louie. It is some what of a plain gun but has nice lines. Of course I have to hang it upside down to look at the dog.  Here are a few more pictures .If you notice the discoloration of the brass on the wear plate I had another rife by Young with the same thing.







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Re: interesting patch box
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2017, 02:07:50 AM »






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