Just something about the first knife I didn't like when I saw the picture...too much rounded belly edge for a patch knife, plunge line didn't seem to go with it, and the edge seemed too thick. So back to my grinder...straight belly edge, ground out the top to bottom taper getting rid of the plunge line, and rolled the edge to a fine hairs thickness so all that gets sharpened it the very edge. Then back into the tea stain. A little dark but it will wear off.