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Offline Mark Elliott

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Need info on Alfred Gross rifles
« on: December 14, 2017, 09:48:22 AM »
I have been asked to recreate an Alfred Gross rifle.   I have good photos of a very fancy silver mounted one and a plain iron mounted one.   What i don't have is data.    Specifically,  I am interested in whether the barrels were straight or swamped.    To the best of my memory, they were more straight than swamped, but I don't know if I could get away with using a straight barrel or not.   If anyone has any data on the barrels,  I would appreciate it.    I am trying to make something as close to an original as possible.   Thanks.
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Offline Cades Cove Fiddler

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Re: Need info on Alfred Gross rifles
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2017, 06:18:40 PM »
 ;) ;)... Sent message ....
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Offline Mark Elliott

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Re: Need info on Alfred Gross rifles
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2017, 06:24:46 AM »
Thanks for the PMs.
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Offline Hungry Horse

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Re: Need info on Alfred Gross rifles
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2017, 08:29:48 PM »
So, was old Al Gross in an early witness protection program, making information about him punishable by death? Just checking.

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Offline louieparker

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Re: Need info on Alfred Gross rifles
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2017, 09:57:03 PM »
Yes !!  All information on AFG is transmitted in code.  On a need to know basis only.......
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Offline Mike Brooks

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Re: Need info on Alfred Gross rifles
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2017, 10:53:38 PM »
Quote from: louieparker on December 15, 2017, 09:57:03 PM
Yes !!  All information on AFG is transmitted in code.  On a need to know basis only.......
I was curious as well. So many of the guns from this area had slightly swamped barrels, barely perceptible. I have seen a lot of Appalachia rifles with a "blob" on either end as well. But if AFG info is super secret I guess I'll just have to stay in the dark. ;)
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Re: Need info on Alfred Gross rifles
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2017, 05:20:35 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D... H. Horse & Mike ...probably half of us on this forum are in a Federal witness protection program ..... Why else would we use an alias on a gun forum that we all know is monitored by big brother ....??? ... Cheers,.... !!!! ....C.C. Fiddler  ... 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Re: Need info on Alfred Gross rifles
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2017, 03:31:37 PM »
The two I “know of locally” are straight.
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Re: Need info on Alfred Gross rifles
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2017, 05:42:06 PM »
The barrels that I have measured are similar to what Mike mentioned. At a glance they appear straight. If you put a  micrometer on them you are likely to find a bit of swamp. The few rifles that he made as flint (that I have checked) had longer barrels, 46 and 47 inches.  Also they were bigger and a bit more swamp.
The percussion had a 43 inch barrel and smaller. Sorry I have forgot the measurements. But this rifle also showed a bit of swamp. I recall thinking, considering the barrel making process at that time it was  probably within the margin of error ??
Don't report me on this I would be accused of GROSS espionage .......LP


 

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