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Offline bowkill

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Stock breakage
« on: January 02, 2018, 04:35:55 AM »
Got this stock and Rayl barrel from a gent who had been hanging on to it for 25 years. (He said)  It was a pre carve with nothing but the barrel and ramrod cut. Thank goodness because I can't stand pre carves with lock and such done because they are usually nightmares. Well finally got to start on gun and noticed the crack by the lock and one at the end of the barrel. The one at the barrel is no problem because or nose piece. Cut lock in and was finishing it up and you guessed it, broke off. Got the super glue out and stuck it back on.. Will it hold? That is the question. What you guys think?

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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2018, 04:37:17 AM »

Id say the glue line will always show up..
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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2018, 04:55:31 AM »
Yes, the glue line will show but you might be able to blend it into the background with permanent markers after staining but before applying the finish.

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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2018, 05:39:32 AM »
  Overkill it's going to depend mostly on what stain. If you stain it really dark won't show as much. Especially with the complete lock in place.
  Also it is up to you if you want to spend for a new stock. I broke a stock almost in the same spot an it looks ok.No one notices it unless I point it out. Good luck

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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2018, 05:51:04 AM »
Similar problem, glue showed first time stained  it off stained it one more time. cannot see it now.   

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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2018, 06:12:22 AM »
Be no new stock, I will fix what ever happens to this one...Lol good idea on marker.. Stock seems to have some good curl. .

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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2018, 06:14:41 AM »
Forgot what they call this but think it will leave out in the final stages. If not owell, a little character. .lol

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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2018, 06:30:43 AM »
Looks like the stock cracked in a curly area.  The curls can be brittle and chip or crack like plastic.  You might also have done too good a job of inletting the lock and got it too tight causing it to push up on the wood.   
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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2018, 08:23:38 AM »
I try to make it so the lock comes out easy because of the finish. It broke after i got lock almost in. Seen it earlier and figured it would, just figured i would cross that bridge when it happened. thought about tight bond 3 but figured super glue might be stronger..
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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2018, 08:51:09 AM »
Forgot what they call this but think it will leave out in the final stages. If not owell, a little character. .lol

That is what is called mineral streaks.
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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2018, 04:14:21 PM »
I believe the question was "will it hold"??
I have no experience with crazy glue?  But once used I'd say you are gonna find out?
If it would fial you would want it to happen now.  But I don't know if the crazy glue would interfere with a different glue you might try??
As for hiding the joint.  There was something on here a few weeks back about somehow putting color in the finish over flaws, glue joints, etc.??
That area is fairly well concealed by the lock anyway.

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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2018, 04:36:04 PM »
I've used a good grade of "super glue"  on a couple of cracks but always stained both sides of the crack and then when dry, applied the glue. The glue dissolves the stain and becomes the same color and is nearly invisible when finished.  Tight clamping is req'd because super glue doesn't like gaps. On irregularly shaped areas, I use tightly wound surgical tubing.

So far, haven't had any problems  w/ the super glue holding. One crack started at the muzzle and went up the web for 7" and the super glue held fast.......Fred

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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2018, 05:25:54 PM »
I've used a good grade of "super glue"  on a couple of cracks but always stained both sides of the crack and then when dry, applied the glue. The glue dissolves the stain and becomes the same color and is nearly invisible when finished.  Tight clamping is req'd because super glue doesn't like gaps. On irregularly shaped areas, I use tightly wound surgical tubing.

So far, haven't had any problems  w/ the super glue holding. One crack started at the muzzle and went up the web for 7" and the super glue held fast.......Fred
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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2018, 05:47:00 PM »
I'd have pinned it and used Titebond.  But that's just me.
Light aging will hide that repair pretty well.
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Re: Stock breakage
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2018, 08:36:54 PM »
I would have used good old Elmer's glue. I was finishing a rifle and the forend cracked right in the center of the end then run about 9" inches down the stock before breaking out, leaving just a sliver holding it on. I immediately stopped what I was doing and grabbed my Elmer's. I was able to get full coverage on  the broken areas, then pinned the front of the stock and applied a clamp to the whole break. After it dried the crack was a thin white line. After staining, the line is still there but no longer white and even I have to seach for it.
Will the old fashioned wood glue hold? Well that's been over 10 years ago, the rifle is my main shooter for small game and practice, and if I've done a lot of shooting I remove the barrel for cleaning. So I'd say yes, the old stuff still works.
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