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Offline tomjanemc

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How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« on: March 02, 2018, 04:53:24 AM »
 I haven’t built a rifle since 2000 and I’m ready to shape the forestock on a 54 caliber percussion fullstock Ohio style rifle.  Octagon barrel is 15/16” x 42” long.
 How much wood do most of you guys leave on the top edge of the forestock, along the barrel.
 1/32 “ or 1/16 ?  My forestock has 1/8” of wood on both sides of the barrel.
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Tom
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Offline David Rase

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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2018, 07:04:37 AM »
I take the top edge of my forestocks down to a knife edge.
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Offline t.caster

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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2018, 05:03:06 PM »
I get it to a knife edge too, and then swipe it once with 400 grit paper so I don't cut myself anymore ;)
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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2018, 05:13:55 PM »
don't you guys ever break the stock taking the barrel in and out when it's that thin?
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Offline flehto

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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2018, 05:22:51 PM »
The wood  alongside  the bbi is 1/16" thick and terminates in a "knife edge" and the top is quite a bit below bore centerline so the vertical length of the side wood isn't that tall and therefore less fragile. 

« Last Edit: March 02, 2018, 05:26:38 PM by flehto »
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Offline Pukka Bundook

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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2018, 05:45:47 PM »
Justin,

That's why when the rifle is finished, it's best to leave it in the stock.  Plain Scary when it's out.
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Offline jim alford

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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2018, 06:16:02 PM »
Rase told me if it doesn't make you pucker to take the barrel out of the stock , it isn't thin enough .
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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2018, 07:07:16 PM »
I rough the barrel to 1/16 of an inch while in the rough, then work it down to as thin as possible during final finishing. You pretty much have to keep the barrel in the stock after that, treat the stock like crystal glass when the barrel is out after final finish. I find a long piece of rod, similar to the ramrod drill in the ramrod channel helps reinforce the stock while working on it.
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Offline Daryl

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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2018, 09:33:59 PM »
Quote from: Justin Urbantas on March 02, 2018, 05:13:55 PM
don't you guys ever break the stock taking the barrel in and out when it's that thin?

no - & on the longrifles, I leave the rod in the pipes.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2018, 09:34:33 PM by Daryl »
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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2018, 11:04:43 PM »
Does anyone else file a slight (2degrees) draft angle on the bottom half of the side flats on your barrel?
When I was a design engineer EVERY part had to have draft angle designed & built into it for assembly & disassembly, whether it was cast or forged. Makes sense so the barrel pulls out without taking strips of wood with it.
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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2018, 11:49:47 PM »
Quote from: t.caster on March 02, 2018, 11:04:43 PM
Does anyone else file a slight (2degrees) draft angle on the bottom half of the side flats on your barrel?...

No, I don't... yet.  Had never even thought of such a simple, practical solution.

Thank you for that one!
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Offline EC121

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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2018, 12:51:41 AM »
All it takes is a few swipes on the corner of the flat with a file and the barrel won't stick.
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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2018, 12:58:41 AM »
I learn SO much here, day to day. Most times, you probably don't even know you're doing it  ;)

Thank you all.
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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2018, 12:15:53 PM »
Hi,
And now for something that will really scare you.  Photo shows an original English fowler.

dave

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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2018, 03:59:15 PM »
That takes nerve!

Kevin
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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2018, 05:11:32 PM »
Wow I thought I goofed up leaving only 1/8 inch
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Offline David Rase

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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2018, 05:59:25 PM »
Quote from: smart dog on March 03, 2018, 12:15:53 PM
Hi,
And now for something that will really scare you.  Photo shows an original English fowler.

dave


Getting ready to shape the forestock on a composite tradegun today that will end up about like that.
Dave
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Offline Justin Urbantas

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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2018, 06:53:49 PM »
I feel like they probably just painted the wood on there. Two thin coats... haha
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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2018, 07:06:40 PM »
Dave...does it come up to bore center or is it below as I would expect?.......Fred
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Re: How much wood should be left on the top edge of forestock?
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2018, 07:52:45 PM »
  When Dave Rase an smartdog give input I listen....Oldtravler....along with use other guy's....
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