Kibler's Colonial patchbox

[Black Jaque Janaviac]

I know its a bit early to expect anyone to have experience with Kibler's colonial kit.  But I am curious how difficult that wooden patchbox would be to fit & assemble.

[D. Taylor Sapergia]

Having built his SMR kit (twice) I will go out on the limb and say it is likely foolproof.

[alex e.]

I have heard that his kits go together as easy as Legos. I wouldn't worry about it too much till it's in hand.

[D. Taylor Sapergia]

I think that might be an exaggerated and poor analogy.  The builder still must be patient and precise but inlets are very very close to finished.  And there is only sanding left to do...no stock wood removal.

[Black Jaque Janaviac]

OK.  So having built one TVM kit, and had it turn out fair, I wouldn't be insane to go for a Kibler Colonial.

It seems that the side without the cheekpiece makes for a large expanse of wood and can be a bit challenging to augment with carving.  Having a patchbox helps break it up.  It is actually kind of difficult to find examples of carving without a box of some sort.  Is that because if they didn't put a box on they were likely building a barn rifle and hence wouldn't carve it up at all?

[Hemo]

If you look at Jim's website under "store", you'll see the wooden patchbox is already cut and dovetailed, and the stock is also dovetailed and the box cavity cut out. Even the brass buttplate is dovetailed. Pretty hard to screw anything up, I would think!

Here's the link:

https://kiblerslongrifles.com/collections/colonial-rifle-kit

Click on the pictures for additional and magnified detailed views.

Gregg

[Jim Kibler]

Yep, the sliding wood box should be a piece of cake to work with.  The lid is fully shaped including a cut-out for the catch spring.  The stock is also fully cut for the lid.  The buttplate has a cut-out for the lid, but it does require final filing after the buttplate is installed. 

This is a really nice feature of the new kit and I encourage everyone to consider it.

Jim

[n stephenson]

Jim, Is there a "backing plate" for the patch box lid . Or is it wood. Like a little brass plate to put on the end. Nate

[Ron Scott]

I would urge anyone desiring an excellent tutorial on sliding butt traps , to find a copy of the article John Bivins wrote for Rifle Magazine. It has been copied many times for educational purposes. 

[Mikecooper]

Where can the John Bivins article be found?

[Jim Kibler]

Jim, Is there a "backing plate" for the patch box lid . Or is it wood. Like a little brass plate to put on the end. Nate

I have the lids cut so they are flush with the buttplate.  The can be used without a brass end piece or can be cut back further and a brass piece can be added.  I'll included a piece of brass with each kit to be used if desired.

Jim

[Ron Scott]

Mike,
It used to be offered in a spiral bound group of information sold by Brownells. Not sure how it was titled. I could make you a copy, but it would have to wait until next week.

ronscottflintlocks@gmail.com

[D. Taylor Sapergia]

Ron, are Biven's Rifle Mag articles copyrighted or can we share them on a site such as this?  My goal is education, not profiting by them.

[Dennis Glazener]

Ron, are Biven's Rifle Mag articles copyrighted or can we share them on a site such as this?  My goal is education, not profiting by them.

Any thing anyone writes is automatically considered under copyright protection (including this reply as long as it meets the criteria for copyright protection!). But to answer your question yes they are under copyright protection but there is consideration given for educational use you might be interested in reading this https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/academic-and-educational-permissions/non-coursepack/ and this one
https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/copyrightinfo/fairuse.html
Dennis