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Offline Mike Lyons

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Thank the Lord that worked out
« on: July 22, 2018, 06:06:56 AM »
What a challenging experience that was.  After ten thousand times putting black on,  removing, scraping and filing, beating with a ball lean hammer and scratching my head, it is tightly sunk in. Unreal that this was a standard practice and not a show off technic like the extra long tangs.

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Offline smallpatch

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Re: Thank the Lord that worked out
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2018, 08:13:53 AM »
Af,
I feel your pain.  Buttplates and entry pipes, after 25 years off and on, still give me a big pain in the nether regions.  I know how to do them, but they're still a pain.!!
I hate to be the first one to tell you this,  ...... it's crooked.
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Don't get discouraged, keep at it, and soon you'll have something very few others have.

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Re: Thank the Lord that worked out
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2018, 02:41:38 PM »
I find it doubly hard to put a BP on a pre carve.  You have to make lots of assumptions about center lines and other reference lines.. That being said I would rather install 3 butt plates than one entry pipe.
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Re: Thank the Lord that worked out
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2018, 02:49:27 PM »
I am beginning to understand why some original guns were made without buttplates and rear thimbles.  It may not totally be about cost or appearances.
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Offline Mike Brooks

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Re: Thank the Lord that worked out
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2018, 03:24:56 PM »
I don't have trouble with buttplates or rear thimbles. get it in your mind where they need to end up and put them there.
 I don't believe I have ever seen that buttplate before, where did you get it?
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Re: Thank the Lord that worked out
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2018, 03:33:37 PM »
"I don't have trouble with buttplates or rear thimbles."

That's because you are Mike Brooks!  :-)   Lots of experience and hard work makes for great skills.   God Bless,   Marc
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Offline Dennis Glazener

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Re: Thank the Lord that worked out
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2018, 03:53:38 PM »
I have always looked forward to in-letting the butt plate it's something I enjoy. Entry pipes not so much but not too bad. I hate in-letting a lock! Just a pain to do it.
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Re: Thank the Lord that worked out
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2018, 04:44:01 PM »
Afgan; Your butt plate does look a bit wonky in the photograph, but I believe it is the photo angle for the most part making me think that. In any case it looks like you have gotten it fitting quite well. That endless blacking and fitting are par for the course with butt plates.

I don't find butt plates inordinately difficult, unless that is, I make some thoughtless error. Recovering from those can be testy and eat a lot of time. Entry pipes; of those that I've done the only type I find daunting are the Hawken style, those are a devil with a high degree of head scratching involved. You must be extremely precise in cutting one of those in.

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Offline Mike Lyons

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Re: Thank the Lord that worked out
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2018, 05:14:49 PM »
Quote from: Mike Brooks on July 22, 2018, 03:24:56 PM
I don't have trouble with buttplates or rear thimbles. get it in your mind where they need to end up and put them there.
 I don't believe I have ever seen that buttplate before, where did you get it?

Mike,  It came with the MBS kit.  I’ve filed some light rings  and facets on it.  This one was smooth and didn’t require the amount of prep  where the last kits buttplate almost needed an angle grinder to get the surface smooth. I enjoy inletting  the buttplates. it was just strange sinking this one in and moving it forward. I blew the KRA photo up to actual size and pinned it in the background to use as a reference for size and shape.   I’ve beat the $#@* out of the back right side with a ball peen hammer.  The entire thing needs filed and finished. I’m hoping it’s the camera angle and hammer beating thats making  the lines look wonkey.  The front right has a ding from dropping it on the concrete floor that will file out.  I used Mike’s advice and tried to show the buttplate who’s boss. 

Mike
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Offline Herb

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Re: Thank the Lord that worked out
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2018, 05:45:48 PM »
Many originals have crooked butt plates.
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Offline Bill Raby

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Re: Thank the Lord that worked out
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2018, 06:09:36 PM »
I have never had any trouble with butt plates or entry pipes. I always thought of that as the easy parts.
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