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Offline Billy Mike

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Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« on: July 02, 2018, 07:18:27 PM »
It's in, it's flat, but I can't find anything about taking it out or a way to do so.

How is that part accomplished?


Offline Scota4570

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2018, 07:20:18 PM »
You are not supposed to remove it for cleaning.  If it ever needs replacement I'd use an easy out. 

Offline Billy Mike

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2018, 07:23:39 PM »
So just clean the flash hole with water and air pressure?

Offline Billy Mike

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2018, 07:36:25 PM »
Ok, works very well. Lots of pressure.

Thank you kindly.

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2018, 12:21:24 AM »
No reason to remove ANY liner for cleaning.
When the time comes, an easy out will remove the old one.
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Offline Billy Mike

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2018, 03:13:03 AM »
Glad I asked.

Thank you gentlemen.

Offline Scota4570

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2018, 03:44:25 AM »
Went shooting today.  My friend dry balled an ITX 54 cal.  They are too hard to get a worm in to.  The liner had no screwdriver slot.  Since we could not remove the liner to trickle in some powder, he was done.  I pulled the plug and pushed the ball out. A removable line has advantages. 

Who sells CO2 dischargers these days?

Offline Mauser06

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2018, 06:53:29 AM »
https://morrismuzzleloading.com/inc/sdetail/rmc_b_i_d__kit__blowoff_inflator__discharger_kit_/206/209


Hope that's allowed.....



I keep one in the range bag and in the truck during hunting seasons....as well as my range rod..I often hunt a ways from home...I like to be prepared for most cases...

Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2018, 04:35:37 PM »
I dry balled one day at the range, forgot to bring my ball puller so I drove home only to realize I had an almost never used CO2 discharger in my tackle box. I had forgotten I bought it as it had been in the box unused for years.

Offline Billy Mike

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2018, 05:15:03 PM »
One day is pretty good.

Offline Jeff Durnell

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2018, 05:46:56 PM »
I have a hex touch hole in my TC Hawken. Love it. I remove it every time I clean it which makes it easy and fast, and it can be removed if there's no powder in there, the powder gets wet, or whatever. I don't think I've pulled a ball since I put that thing in there 20 years ago. I just don't think it looks right on a more period correct gun.

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2018, 06:27:16 PM »
Get yourself a set of LHDB (left-hand drill bits).

And you'll never use an "ez out" again. 

It's faster and simpler and works for me. My auto-house stocks LHDB, but I doubt any "chain auto store" does (as many of you have to suffer that unfortunate situation).

Of course there are the industrial suppliers who have everything...
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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2018, 11:18:32 PM »
 If your patient, you can push enough powder through the touch hole with a nipple pick to shoot the ball out. It helps if you crush it fine in the pan first.

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2018, 02:59:43 AM »
If your patient, you can push enough powder through the touch hole with a nipple pick to shoot the ball out. It helps if you crush it fine in the pan first.


That is just one of the "other" reasons we use FFFG for prime. Works on "dry-balls" every time.
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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2018, 11:37:25 PM »
Who sells CO2 dischargers these days?

Don't buy them from muzzleloader suppliers. Go to the local bicycle shop, and buy exactly the same thing for half the price. Get a couple ball inflators, and cut the tip off about 1/8", they work for both cap and flint. They most likely also sell the cartridges of CO2.
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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2018, 01:22:41 AM »
fffg works great MOST of the time.  CO2 the same.  Every once in a while, especially in smaller calibers, the ball will block the flash channel, then its ball puller, or breech plug.
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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2018, 12:16:51 AM »
da dreaded dry ball.  this one of the very few times that a flintlock's patent breech makes sense - fill it up with whatever powder, however ya can, blow out the ball.

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2018, 03:50:45 PM »
I like a removable liner because I remove it for cleaning and screw in a homemade nipple and small hose to pump through and prevent getting water between barrel and stock.

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2018, 03:54:44 PM »
removable liners should not be removed unless absolutely necessary.  there is no need to remove 'em for barrel cleaning, and they should have been initially installed with a good anti-seize lube, and that lube used for any reinstall.

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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2018, 04:37:28 PM »
I like WadePatton's (?) comment about the left hand drill bits.  Before I retired and started working on firearms, I built airplanes and race cars for a hobby.  Lots of places on fast little cars and airplanes where you cannot go RIGHT, and have to go LEFT!
Consequently, I have left-handed drills, taps and dies.  And since I have ALL my smaller taps in one bin, I do need to use caution when selecting one for use.  No mistakes yet, thank goodness!
Aviation Spruce is a great source for things such as this.  I also get 1075 and 4130 steel from them.  Handy stuff to have around!
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Re: Removing white lightning touchhole liner
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2018, 05:08:11 PM »
To remove or not.  Toe-may-toe, Ta-mah-toe.  Do what works best for you.

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