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FFFG

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Trade gun locks
« on: February 27, 2019, 02:32:08 AM »
Hi

Being a big fan of trade guns i would like to buid one the most accurately possible reproduction  from the original.I am looking for a lock such as Barnett .Is there  a place who reproduce such lock from originals?And what about a barrel for it?

  Thanks for your help.    fffg

Offline B.Barker

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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2019, 03:16:33 AM »
Chris Hirsh has castings from an original trade gun lock. North west trade gun that is. I believe he is a member on here and he has a web site but don't know what it is off hand. I'll try to find it for you.

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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2019, 03:17:33 AM »
That is a tough one. A Barnett marked lock with the fox tombstone would be hard to find. I’m looking at a 1838 Nortwest Trade Gun in “For Trade and Treaty”. The lock is 6” and the big L&R trade gun lock could work. It would need to be engraved. Barrel on this one is  20 ga and 38.5” long. Barrel is 1” at breech and has a short octagon section.

What timeframe and barrel length are you looking for?

There’s an 1815 in this book also. No pan bridle and lock is shorter.
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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2019, 03:20:05 AM »
Depends on what trade gun of what particular era  you want to build. It's all in the details.
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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2019, 03:32:05 AM »
Here's the lock that Chris has castings for. His web site is  texasguntrade.com if you want to look at what he has.


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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2019, 05:33:25 AM »
Hi

Thank you for your answers.I want a built a Barnett trade gun between 1830's to the end of the flint era (1870's). The double throated cock on the late lock would be fine also.

   Thanks    fffg

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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2019, 06:20:41 AM »
You’ll need to make or modify or have it done.
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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2019, 06:36:00 PM »

  Chas Hanson's Trade Gun Sketchbook has Barnett plans if you need them.

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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2019, 07:24:39 PM »
Prior Mountain Bill Newton’s tradegun book has patterns for an early Whately, and some others,  with illustrations on how to produce the correct markings on the lock, and barrel.

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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2019, 07:36:02 PM »


  Yes, there is also a Barnett.

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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2019, 08:49:34 PM »
Track of the Wolf has Trade Gun Locks, stocks & barrels and all other smaller parts and also has both styles of sitting fox stamps, LONDON stamp, Barnett proof stamps, British Proof stamps etc.
What more could you need? :o

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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2019, 12:06:00 AM »
Dang, I just sold an old Barnett serpent side plate a couple weeks ago for next to nothing. I could have gouged you on the price!  ;)
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FFFG

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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2019, 02:36:00 AM »
Hi

 I would like to thank you again for your precious help.To help you to understand my situation about my need to build the most accurate trade gun possible.First i own almost 20 books about trade gun and a lot of infos about.My friend who lives near me (Quebec) is the author Russel Bouchard ,he wrote many books about the subject.I once  built  a kit in the 1980 's .manufactured from a guy in U.S.A.The gun was fine but had some difference from a real one.I fell in love which those guns when i was in a younger age ,30 years later(i am now 62years old)i would like to build the most accurate possible reproduction.that is why i am a little finnicky about my needs.I have checked about every place who sells any parts or else  about trade guns.

Thank you all.    fffg

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Re: Trade gun locks
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2019, 09:51:56 PM »
You can get in touch with several barrel makers like Rayle, Burton and probably Rice Barrels and they would make a barrel to your specs.