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Offline Clint

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firewood pile pistol
« on: August 04, 2019, 02:23:54 AM »
This is a pistol that I made two years ago and has been sitting in the bookcase in my shop, ageing. I have just given it away in barter and figured I had better photograph it before it slipped out of my memory.
  The bronze barrel is 8" by .54 cal and was turned from an old boat prop shaft. all of the brass work was hammered up by me and the lock (4 1/2" X3/4") was one of three that I made from wrought iron a few years ago.
  Thanks for looking and have a great summer!Clint

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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2019, 02:37:53 AM »
That's a darn fine looking pistol and one I would be proud to own.
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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2019, 02:45:59 AM »
I like it. LOTS ;D
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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2019, 04:54:03 AM »
Very nice!!! Thanks for sharing!

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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2019, 04:58:57 AM »
You got lots of talent. Very nice pistol you created there.

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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2019, 10:10:57 AM »
Impressiv build, all aparts from scratch!!! Thats alot of work. Beautifuf work.

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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2019, 02:03:16 PM »
Hello Clint,
Would you please tell us the theme of the pistol?
What gave you inspiration to build such a pistol?
What hardware did you chose? And why?
Yeah, I know lots of questions.
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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2019, 08:39:19 PM »
Love that bronze .54 smoothy!!

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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2019, 03:21:38 AM »
Old Ford brings up an interesting question about the theme  for this piece. The truth is, I have been making "cool expensive stuff " all of my life. This pistol in concept began as the lock. After the locks are made, they take on a life which suggests design parameters, next came the stock, one of a bunch which were saved from the wood stove. I am always looking for crooks or elbows to make boat knees or pistol stocks. I use crooks that are 10" -15" did to make pistols and I rough side them with a chainsaw. What follows is a whole gun building process. On a small pistol like this, there are not many choices for hardware so I make everything to fit the stock. There is no historic model other than vague inspiration from books or museum pieces. A lot of folks try to imagine that the piece they are making was from an ancient gunsmith who trained here, moved there and came up with the gun they are showing you. All of my guns, gates, lighting fixtures etc are a cumulative expression of what I know and have the ability or inability to execute. I have a lot of experience and have made thousands of things. I have also generated many large scrap piles. Allow yourself to think and imagine what it is that you want to make ...  and make it.
Clint the blacksmith

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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2019, 04:50:18 AM »
What would be a safe charge for that bore?

Is she proofed?

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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2019, 12:30:44 AM »
Wow that is great pistol nice barrel.
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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2019, 07:35:56 AM »
It should certainly handle 40 to 50gr. 2F.
I would likely not shoot 3f in it, preferring the lower pressure of 2F.
I do shoot 55gr. 3F in my .54 pistol with steel bl. Puts a .526" RB out at 1,200fps,
ab out the same as my modern mag. revolver with 220gr. bullet.
I would not shoot that load in a brass bl.


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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2019, 09:25:58 AM »
Interesting. I’ve heard a brass barrel will work harden over time? Will a brass barrel eventually crack from even repeated “safe” loads?

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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2019, 06:18:41 PM »
Smokey, brass barreled cannon several hundred years old have been recovered from ship wrecks, and most are in fine shape.  I would not hesitate to shoot a light charge in most of them.
I have not seen any antique brass pieces crack from over-hardening.
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Re: firewood pile pistol
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2019, 12:49:13 AM »
many boat shafts are made of naval bronze or silica bronze. These are extremely tough metals and are subjected to high torque forward and reverse for years. The only problem comes from backing down od the rocks, then they bend. I have seen 3" shafts badly bent. $$$ I once made chain plates for a large yacht from forged naval bronze. The working load for the wire they supported was 12,000 lbs and the owner was curious about the strength of the forgings so we hooked each one of them (4) to a graphing dynamometerand pulled them. The bronze pieces elongated at 44,000 lbs and broke at 57,000 lbs. I charged them $500. each and made four more for $500 each. Bronze is not brass.
Clint