Author Topic: Lil" BIG bore!!!! (Read 2585 times)

Longknife · « **on:** March 13, 2020, 11:03:48 PM »

Here is an nice little English pistol that I found hiding in my safe the other day. It has a 4 1/4 inch barrel and the bore is a 10 gauge, .(774) Ouch on both ends!!!! When I got it the seller said it was unmarked but I can see a few letters close to the frizzen spring, I THINK I know the maker,. What do you see?,,, Ed,,,

Robert Wolfe · « **Reply #1 on:** March 13, 2020, 11:10:54 PM »

Very cool! Quite a handful. I think I'd use it with buckshot.

Bob Roller · « **Reply #2 on:** March 14, 2020, 12:19:46 AM »

Surprisingly good condition.Definetly a good one shot self defense piece.
Neat little lock too.Does it still work?Half cock and full cock still OK?
Bob Roller

FALout · « **Reply #3 on:** March 14, 2020, 04:58:26 AM »

That is one neat pistol, I’ve never seen anything like that!

Niall · « **Reply #4 on:** March 14, 2020, 11:16:14 AM »

I think that this could possibly to be an Irish made pistol,or made in Birmingham for the Irish market.It has a lot of typical 'irish' features, not least the large bore. Known as a Manstopper. You know what they say 'A little powder,much lead,shoots far,kills dead.

I'll surmise you're thinking the name on the lock plate is 'NOCK' but's that's no guarantee it was made by Henry Nock. His name was frequently plagiarised to add a bit of polish to generic pistols like this one.
Maybe you have other ideas?

hard to read from the photos.

Niall

Marcruger · « **Reply #5 on:** March 14, 2020, 05:16:29 PM »

I have no input on the origins. I will say it appears to be something Steve McQueen would have carried if he was alive when this pistol was made. Just plain cool.

God Bless, Marc

smart dog · « **Reply #6 on:** March 14, 2020, 05:43:36 PM »

Hi,
Ketland based on the decorative engraving.

dave

Niall · « **Reply #7 on:** March 14, 2020, 07:08:13 PM »

Looking again and putting two and two together I'm starting to see TRULOCK, a fairly prolific Dublin gunmaker. Still just a guess but maybe if you rubbed it you might get a clearer idea.

Are there any visible proof marks on the barrel,I can't see any....unless they're underneath??

This one's a bit earlier c.1800 but the same idea;

Justin Urbantas · « **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2020, 02:47:28 AM »

Very nice. I love these overcoat pistols. I'm planning on building a 5" in .62 smoothbore. Figuring out the trigger position to have enough room for me to grip the stock is tricky. I'm using a John Bailes lock

Longknife · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2020, 09:57:54 PM »

Bob Roller. the lock works fine but I have to knap tiny flits for it!

Naill. I think you have something there , it sure could be "TRULOCK". The only marks on the bottom of the barrel are "JM"

Niall · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2020, 11:10:09 PM »

Ed.

That'll be John Murphy, 190 Great Britain Street 1808-1835, a Dublin Barrel maker.

Niall

WadePatton · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2020, 11:49:44 PM »

I do like these stubby stouts! Thanks for sharing.

Bob Roller · « **Reply #12 on:** March 17, 2020, 12:02:47 AM »

I can just imagine some thug walking up to a man armed with this little cannon
and saying,"Gimme whatchu got" and the man with the little cannon pointing it at him
and saying,"SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE DUMMY,I LOST MY HEARING IN THE LAST
WAR"

Bob Roller

hanshi · « **Reply #13 on:** March 17, 2020, 11:33:39 PM »

I like that pistol!

Longknife · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2020, 08:11:39 AM »

Quote from: Bob Roller on March 17, 2020, 12:02:47 AM

I can just imagine some thug walking up to a man armed with this little cannon
and saying,"Gimme whatchu got" and the man with the little cannon pointing it at him
and saying,"SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE DUMMY,I LOST MY HEARING IN THE LAST
WAR"
Bob Roller

Bob, I hope I never run into you in a dark alley!!!!!

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