recognize this lock

[Ken G]

Anyone recognize this lock and who might be selling it now.  I saw it at Tips several years back and seems like I remember Tip saying he was not going to sell it under MG locks.  I don't remember seeing it at Friendship but I really wasn;t looking for it then,  
Pete Allan maybe or larry Zoin (sp)?  
Any help would be appreciated.  
Thanks,
Ken

[tallbear]

Ken
It's a Pete Allan I believe.Mine has an A stamped on the inside.I got mine from Tip a couple of years ago.

Mitch

[Ken G]

Thanks Mitch, I sent Pete an email. 
Ken

[Bill of the 45th]

I think I have a spare Ken, if you need it.  It's Larry Zorn at M&G locks.  I've got there contact info. somewhere.

Bill

[J.D.]

Hmmm, I like that a lot. Does this lock have a flint style tumbler, or a stirrup?

Also, what are the dimensions of the plate?

[Ken G]

Here's a couple of pics that Birddog took for me several years ago.  I don't know about the dimensions but it is real close to a Late Ketland
Bill,
Thanks for the offer but I'm in no hurry for the lock.  Just thinking ahead for a project and looking at options.  I like the looks of the lock and I'm sure it is a good lock but it is HARD to bring myself to use anything other than a Chambers Late Ketland. 
Cheers, 
Ken


Chamber's Late Ketland on top in the first picture.  
Chamber's Late Ketland on the bottom in the second photo.  

[J Shingler]

Just a little bit of fit and finish difference. 

[Acer Saccharum]

I don't like the aesthetics of the cock on the M&G..too fat in the jaws, and a strange gooseneck, all of which could be eased by some judicious filing. looks like a well made lock.

[J.D.]

Just a little bit of fit and finish difference. 

And the "water proof pan" and the linked tumbler. The cock is more bulky too.

Depending on price, it might, or might not be worth looking into.

I do like the linked tumbler, though.

All in all, Chambers locks are hard to beat, but sometimes, an interesting new offering can cause a distraction. 

God bless

[rsells]

I am using one of these locks that I purchased from Tip on a rifle I am building now.  He also has a version that is a copy of Chamber's late Ketland (cock, frizzen, and pan).  I am going to use the first version with the cock off the late Ketland version so it will match a lock that I seen on an original Southern rifle.
                                                             Roger Sells

[J.D.]

Where does the cam/foot of the frizzen rest, in relation to the roller,  when the pan is closed? The the cam on the Chambers Late Ketland I have rests at the 3:00 position on the roller. The cam on original roller spring locks I have seen rests at the 1:00 position, on the roller.

IMHO, the higher position of the cam on the roller gives a quicker, snappier kick over to the frizzen. It should give longer flint life too.

God bless