Rice's lock website

[Bob Roller]

I think any lock that LC is putting his name on, or has any association with, will be a good lock. Years ago when locks were a mystery to me LC took the time to educate me and get me on the right track. The man knows his stuff.

Just viewed the website. I would like to try a lock with a roller on the frizzen and spring. But I doubt it will be one of these as I don't see a LH option listed.
Typical.

I just now noticed this post and have made 2 locks with the double roller and it offered no advantage
that I could notice.One was an L&R late English lock that has a roller on the frizzen spring and it was
easy to split the foot of that frizzen and install the 2nd roller.The other was a small lock I was making
for the German market and again,no real advantage noticed.I think today we are sometimes trying ideas that failed back
in the 18 and whenevers.There has been articles written by people with far more knowledge than I have about
these hopped up flintlocks and most of them were centered on the English trying to forestall the oncoming and
inevitable arrival of percussion systems that rendered the spark generating ideas obsolete.Today they are a
sporting gun of the first rank but nothing more.Their day of dominance is over
Bob Roller

[Marcruger]

"I haven't gotten a Kibler lock yet. Can't wait for his waterproof pan version. But from the photos of what he's put out so far, they are well worth the extra $50.00 over other makers."

I can say that Jim Kibler makes a fine lock.  What I will add is that they are not some incredible new device.  Let me explain....

I bought a Chambers Roundfaced built and carefully tuned by Chris Evrard.  When Jim Kibler's roundfaced lock came out, I heard great things, and wanted to know how much better it was after all of the comments.  So, I bought one. 

An experienced gun building friend and I sat down with both and compared them side-by-side.  The end result was that both put out a powerful shower of sparks.  Both were finely fitted with no play I could discern.  In the end, we plumped for the Evrard-built Chambers.  The spring on the Chambers felt a little stronger and more positive.  There was an undefinable quality to the Chambers that simply made me like it better, but your opinion on this last point my be opposite mine. 

All of that said, I could have happily put the Kibler lock in a rifle and used it the rest of my life with no complaints I am sure. 

My point to all of this is that if you are expecting the Kibler to be twice as good as a nicely built Chambers, you'll be disappointed.  If you want a solid, well-built lock, I believe the Kibler is that.  I do admit that my Chambers built by Chris is most likely edging into the "custom" arena, and I did pay for that fitting and tuning. 

Just my two cents worth.  God Bless,   Marc

[Mike Brooks]

In my opinion we are living in the golden age of this era of muzzleloading. There are a comparatively HUGE number of extremely good working locks on the market at very reasonable prices. All lock makers seem to be very busy as are barrel makers. Where is all that stuff going anyway?

[Bob Roller]

In my opinion we are living in the golden age of this era of muzzleloading. There are a comparatively HUGE number of extremely good working locks on the market at very reasonable prices. All lock makers seem to be very busy as are barrel makers. Where is all that stuff going anyway?

Probably being stashed for future use.I know a man that has a good number of my
locks and triggers including some one of a kind special request types.As most know
I have stopped lock making but that is a well supplied market and I have no requests
to make any more.
Bob Roller

[Stoner creek]

In my opinion we are living in the golden age of this era of muzzleloading. There are a comparatively HUGE number of extremely good working locks on the market at very reasonable prices. All lock makers seem to be very busy as are barrel makers. Where is all that stuff going anyway?

It’s being stashed away on the premises of a wealthy collector in south central Alabama.

[sqrldog]

I thought you could have been talking about me, but then you mentioned wealthy, that left me out. I do have a couple of locks and barrels just in case.😉

[Acer Saccharum]

Where is all that stuff going anyway?

I'm not tellin'.