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MikeW

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Help identifying trigger
« on: November 23, 2020, 07:51:42 PM »
I have a trigger that I need help identifying the manufacturer. There is a stamp on the side of a deer head with horns.
I'm new to muzzle loading and have no idea who's logo this might be?. Help please?




Offline Stoner creek

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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2020, 08:12:06 PM »
L&R
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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2020, 08:59:20 PM »
Yes, L & R.
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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2020, 09:15:00 PM »
Nope, it's an L&R. :P
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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2020, 09:42:51 PM »
Nope, I’m almost positive that it’s an L&R.
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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2020, 10:15:18 PM »
Thank you very much gentlemen. I appreciate the help.

MikeW

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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2020, 11:58:34 PM »
Additional help/suggestions please?

The trigger appears to be an L&R T1300 Hawkens set which is 9 3/4" long that someone prior to me installed.
The bad news is that the rifle is a Southern Mountain style flint and a more appropriate trigger might be an L&R T-5 set which is only 5 3/4" long.

I'm a rookie and have been reviewing a load of build videos on Utube, but none of them have covered how to back fill this much material. The stock is a pretty curly maple and is salvageable. What is the traditional method to fill this much gap?

If this poor rifle could talk it would have a tale of woe and anguish before I found it over 15 yrs ago. It's been in the safe waiting for my retirement and time to restore it. Most of the inletting for the lock and trigger appears to have done by a chain saw and/or a rabid squirrel.

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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2020, 01:11:06 AM »
Since most of the bar is under the triggerguard, saw it off and fit a filler block.  Leave enough metal behind the mainspring screw for a small wood screw.
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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2020, 01:35:44 AM »
I concur with EC121.  But you have an opportunity to take your scary sharp chisels and clean up the inlet so that your plug will be less noticeable.  Cut a bit of draft on the edges, make your plug the same and when you tap it in, the edges lines will be microscopic.
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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2020, 06:11:11 AM »
Welcome Mike w. If you havent figgered it out already, we have NO shortage of wisecrackers here, and I am one of em too. Gotta keep it light . I got a good chuckle out of all this 'specially when Mr Brooks came roarin out.!! :-*
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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2020, 06:39:25 PM »
I'm still pretty sure it's an L&R no matter what all the experts say.
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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2020, 06:50:29 PM »
I'm still pretty sure it's an L&R no matter what all the experts say.
Are you calling me an expert mister? Them’s fighting words round here.
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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2020, 07:17:14 PM »
Welcome to the forum I hope  you enjoy it and learn something from the experts here, and there are a lot of them. I like the suggestion of adapting the trigger set and using a filler block with a draft. Both are simple and straight forward from those who know what they are talking about. Being a long time woodworker I have used filler blocks many times and done well they can be almost impossible to see without knowing they are there.
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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2020, 12:23:21 AM »
Thanks very much for the welcoms to the forum and advice. Being new to muzzleloading/building and admittedly a gifted slow learner when it comes to woodworking, I'm grateful to have found a source of reliable “expert” advice.  I hope all have a great Thanksgiving.

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Re: Help identifying trigger
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2020, 07:29:53 PM »
I'm still pretty sure it's an L&R no matter what all the experts say.
Are you calling me an expert mister? Them’s fighting words round here.
I always was told that "X" is math for the unknown and spurt can be a bad faucet failure.
I can tell you who did not make these triggers but nothing more.
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