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Offline wabeek

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Poulin Auction
« on: December 13, 2020, 04:52:54 PM »
Poulin Auctions could be worthwhile watching today December 13!!! 

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Re: Poulin Auction
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2020, 07:27:45 PM »
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Re: Poulin Auction
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2020, 07:59:10 PM »
I'd love to get my hands on old 3506 and since the lock is already a reconversion, I would love to "renovate" the existing reconversion with a much better and less blatant cock/frizzen spring.  the pan/frizzen aren't too bad at all but the cock and spring bug me every time I look at it.  I can't stand it!
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Re: Poulin Auction
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2020, 12:26:12 AM »
Very interesting - looking at # 3508, I believe that I may have two rifles of a slightly later period by the same guy.  Maybe now I finally know who made them!


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Re: Poulin Auction
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2020, 03:50:50 AM »
Dave, Can you start another thread, and post up some pictures of your rifles?
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Re: Poulin Auction
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2020, 04:30:58 AM »
John sure, first I’ll get a few good pictures. 

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Re: Poulin Auction
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2020, 05:32:18 PM »
I have a question about #3520. Would this have been similar to the Pennsylvania style rifles imported from Germany to be sold here in America? I have always wondered what those really looked like. Did they stand out or just blend in?
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Re: Poulin Auction
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2020, 06:51:01 AM »
Eric, the narrative on old smooth rifle 3506 tells us the "Tapered & beveled engraved lock has well sculpted goose neck serpentine cock", so the current piece must be special and more valuable?  Show us what you would replace it with?  That seems to me an odd shaped lockplate - unlike most other rifles of the area, and could sure look better with a few new components.  The C's Spring gunshop did turn out an occasional "self made" lock.  But they also had locks valued from a few shillings to 2 Pounds plus, so cheap locks to go along with the good and fine.

TCA, 3520 is first "elegant and fine, made in Kentucky" in the title, then a Swiss or European copy of a American rifle in the narrative.  It looks totally European to me, but maybe the writer thinks it's a copy of our colonial rifles because of the long barrel?  It has a military or militia look, except for the carving in a few places - what do others think?  I don't think they were copying our longrifles over there - rather we were turning German and Swiss rifles into PA style here.  There's a Hauschka rifle with long barrel in The Lancaster Rifle, and a few others pictured here and there.  This would make a good separate thread.  Bob

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Re: Poulin Auction
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2020, 04:51:47 PM »
TCA, 3520 is first "elegant and fine, made in Kentucky" in the title, then a Swiss or European copy of a American rifle in the narrative.  It looks totally European to me, but maybe the writer thinks it's a copy of our colonial rifles because of the long barrel?  It has a military or militia look,

Bob very accurately notes that this rifle has definitely military features, sling swivels and long ramrod pipes with flared mouths. Looks to be a version of a Jager Rifle with a longer barrel made to order for reasons that can only be speculated on.

The key phrase in Poulin's description is "Consignor believes". Belief and documented fact are two very different things.

Sorry for my cynicism but, I've developed it over nearly 50 years of collecting. There is one rifle I have which I firmly believe was at the  Battle of Bunker Hill, near Boston, based on the fact that it smells like baked beans. The fact that it looks a M1873 Trapdoor has no bearing on the matter whatsoever.  :D
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Re: Poulin Auction
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2020, 05:22:08 PM »
My comment is kind of off topic but I think demonstrates belief versus documented fact. I've been doing genealogy research for more than 30 years and witnessed a number of occasions where the belief of a given lineage ends up being quoted and duplicated over time into perceived fact. It becomes very difficult to convince someone of the error even WHEN you're the one who made the mistake originally!
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