Finally broke down and got a Lindsey Bench graver and sharpening system.Oh boy,is this thing fun to play with.Hammer and chisel is ok,but this makes it just plain fun.Now I might get halfway decent at engraving.At least I'll enjoy it.Trying to use a hammer left handed or guide the chisel with my left was always somewhat awkward for me so this just feels more accurate.And my wife might get some homemade jewelry now,lol.Little more practice and it's time for some patchboxs.