BUTT ON SCHIMMELS

[Marcruger]

Al, that PA Schimmel you built that Bob McBride now has is still a stunner.  No buttplate or embellishments, and doesn't need it. God Bless,   Marc

[Karl Kunkel]

Dennis,  you recall correctly.  I remember Don showing me one of his Schimmels at the shop.  It had a butt carved to resemble a butt plate. A real beaut.

[jerrywh]

What your saying is you don't like shimmels, because they don't have butt plates. We've come a long ways from Monty Mandarino and John Bivins.

[AVP]

No plate on this one but hard as an ash rock and has never cracked, swelled or chipped. I cannot see anything done to it other than being sealed. I think with beeswax originally which I have continued to do to yearly

[Kevin]

Greetings All,

This relic of a gun resides with me:





Kevin

[Burg]

This rifle maker is in Bill Ivey's book circa 1830.  It has seen much use but is still sound.  It has a metal heel plate on it.

[Tim Ault]

I'm kinda liking that metal plate . I may do something like that on my next rifle .

[bob in the woods]

Mine has no butt plate , however there is an outline carved to suggest one, similar to some European guns . 

[Nordnecker]

I'm kinda liking that metal plate . I may do something like that on my next rifle .

Me too!

[t.caster]

Well if he insists on a buttplate, here is a Schimmel Deluxe I built last Fall. Used an old steel shotgun plate- modified slightly.

[Marcruger]

I like that look Tom.  Nicely executed. 

[Ric Carter]

I've never put butt plates on one, but see no reason not to. When I make them, I saturate the end grain with Minwax Wood Hardener. I apply it in several applications until it will take no more. It takes stain well. It seems to be very effective in preventing excess wear on the butt.

[Mike Brooks]

Not much wear on this one at 175 years old or so.

[rsherman]

Mike, is that a defect in the wood down by the toe?, Or damage from use?  I can't tell from my fone.

[Mike Brooks]

Mike, is that a defect in the wood down by the toe?, Or damage from use?  I can't tell from my fone.

Bark inclusion. You ought to see the other side. The bark is actually nailed down

[Greg Pennell]

Mike, is that a defect in the wood down by the toe?, Or damage from use?  I can't tell from my fone.

Bark inclusion. You ought to see the other side. The bark is actually nailed down

Wow...someone was sure determined to make a stock out of that tree...

Greg

[rsherman]

Thanks Mike,  makes me feel better about maybe using some of the wood ive aquired over the years for some plain rifles!  Lol.

[rsherman]

All those inherent defects yet the butt has held up fine.

[Mike Brooks]

All those inherent defects yet the butt has held up fine.

Buttplates are highly over rated.

[duca]

I own a original Lehigh Rifle I bought at Bushy Run a while ago . Its  plain schimmel , late flint period , plain wood , tool marks all over it .
This rifle has a buttplate , triggerguard and 1 ramrod pipe .. and curly tail rammer jag .. cool cool !!

I call the guns with a buttplate , Schimmel Deluxe !!

Al

Hey Allen any chance in seeing a couple of picture of it? Sounds pretty cool,

Anthony

[Cory Joe Stewart]

It seems to me that Don Getz made one or two guns with the butts carved to simulate a buttplate.
Dennis

He did. They were featured on the Contemporary Makers Blog site. I am planning a similar build now.

Cory Joe Stewart