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ALR Musuem Gunsmith: Herbach, J...... York Co, PA
« on: September 01, 2009, 05:17:22 AM »
A very fine early wooden-slide patchbox longrifle of York Co, PA origin by
J. Herbach.

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http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?board=216.0

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Re: ALR Musuem Gunsmith: Herbach, J...... York Co, PA
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2009, 06:33:22 PM »
Hurricane, Very sleek, I like it a lot. Uh-Oh, I think I'm getting inspired! at least I won't have to deal with all those pesky inlays. Thank you.
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Re: ALR Musuem Gunsmith: Herbach, J...... York Co, PA
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 10:24:29 PM »
Was the barrel cut down a little. Couldn't really tell in the photo's. But inn one it sorta looked like it may have been.

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Re: ALR Musuem Gunsmith: Herbach, J...... York Co, PA
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2009, 10:31:40 PM »
I don't believe the barrel has ever been cut down. Yes this is the one from the West coast collection and it did come with the original document signed by Herbach.  The document is for the settlement of an estate/land transfer involving Herbach and another party and is dated 1803.

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Re: ALR Musuem Gunsmith: Herbach, J...... York Co, PA
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 10:54:11 PM »
Lex-Thank for the background info on the Herbach. This is a grand early rifle from a school where all of the early guns were mostly Schroyers. Wouldn't be surprised if Herbach taught Schroyer a thing or two about gun making.
It's nice to hear that the old document is still with the rifle, as they were separated for many, many years. I have more details and stories, but the telling would take too much time.
As to a cut back, I have seen and handled the Herbach a few times and if the barrel was cut, I couldn't see where it would have taken place. We need to keep in mind that the early pieces had rather short barrels for the most part, and Jaeger rules in building were still observed.
Thanks again-Dick