Author Topic: Bench copy Schroyer  (Read 10213 times)

Offline B Shipman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1928
    • W.G. Shipman Gunmaker
Re: Bench copy Schroyer
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2009, 01:31:29 AM »
Tom, the lock bolt heads on the Schroyer are pretty cool. Like the "fancy" flat top heads you see in catalogs. Only these are wider. As for the bits, I'm just to lazy to go buy a little bigger one.

Guy, I agree with you on bench copies. Not to copy one closely and get all the nuances seems a waste of the opportunity. The only reason the T.G. ,for example , is not exact, is the expense of making a model and casting a single piece when you've got one that's correct on hand.

Allen Martin did an exceptional bench copy Henry Mauger where he copied one and added the carving from another.

Flinter

  • Guest
Re: Bench copy Schroyer
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2009, 02:58:08 PM »
Bill, I have to look at your George Schroyer copy every time I log onto the ALR site. Fantastic!

Mike

Offline Ken G

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5526
  • F & AM #758
Re: Bench copy Schroyer
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2009, 03:04:32 PM »
Bill,
That's some outstanding work.  Just like you always do.  Thanks for posting the pics.  Really nice to see the side by side photos.
Ken
Failure only comes when you stop trying.

stonehenge

  • Guest
Re: Bench copy Schroyer
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2009, 11:23:48 PM »
The rifle is nice- I bought a Shroyer in 1990 at the Richmond Gun Show- it was black as soote and straight grain maple. I like the choice of wood used. I have had and owned some of the best woods ever cut and used to use wood with 20 stripes to the inch but now and in the past several years I like to see a stock that has some stripe and see the beauty in the plain straight grain. Bill Shipman has studied the originals and knows the Art is in the carving- inletting and engraving. He also knows how to keep it clean,

Offline Brian Jordan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 548
  • Pennsylvania
Re: Bench copy Schroyer
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2009, 11:59:46 AM »
Very, Very nice!!!
Elizabeth, PA

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms"...Thomas Jefferson

Let's Go Brandon!

Offline G-Man

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2217
Re: Bench copy Schroyer
« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2009, 02:49:52 PM »
Your guard is very close to the original.  For you guys who have not had the chance to see Reaves' hardware, he has a lot of really nice patterns like this that are a good choice to get you close to an original that you like, and also in the end give your gun a look that is a bit different from the standard castings you see from the large suppliers.  It looked like he had a good selection at Friendship the other day but he was not in the booth when I was there - always enjoy talking to him.  Ask him about his early days of collecting sometimes - its amazing to hear - and he has a wealth of knowledge that he is happy to share, including knowing about the specific pieces the castings were copied from.

One other thing I love about this gun is that it is one of my favorite Shroyer patchboxes.  It has a similar feel to the styles that moved down through Virginia and beyond the mountains.  My ancestors left the Conewago settlement in York County PA for Kentucky in the early 1780s and it's fun to imagine them carrying a Shroyer or similar piece along their way west to Fort Pitt and down the Ohio to Kentucky.  Probably didn't have one, but you never know.


Guy
« Last Edit: September 14, 2009, 03:06:26 PM by Guy Montfort »

Offline B Shipman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1928
    • W.G. Shipman Gunmaker
Re: Bench copy Schroyer
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2009, 06:20:22 AM »
Guy, I've always thought that Schroyer had a great influence in the Shenendoah valley.

One cool thing about this rifle that is hard to see is the wrist inlay is raised in a bump.

For those who don't know, almost all of Reeve's castings are cast directly from originals.