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Offline runastav

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Tuning a Harrington & Richardson side lock
« on: December 10, 2021, 05:15:08 PM »
Hi all!
This H&R sidelock need some care, can someone tell me wath engrawing they have used? And see the goe thrue hammer screew have not seen that before. Dennis, its a sidelock and I will not show the hole gun ;)
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Re: Tuning a Harrington & Richardson side lock
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2021, 05:18:59 PM »
If not part of the lost wax casting design, the engraving would have been pressed in, possibly using a roller.
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Re: Tuning a Harrington & Richardson side lock
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2021, 07:28:42 PM »
Give me until this afternoon and I can put up pictures of some originals
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Re: Tuning a Harrington & Richardson side lock
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2021, 08:32:24 PM »
Runar:  I suspect the engraving on the plate and hammer is cast in when the plate was made.  And it will have been case hardened, so re-cutting without annealing would be a bear.
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Re: Tuning a Harrington & Richardson side lock
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2021, 02:38:28 AM »
Oh this is about the engraving. Misread it at work.
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Re: Tuning a Harrington & Richardson side lock
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2021, 04:23:46 AM »
The scroll engraving is (IIRC) Photo Chemical Etching.
Kind of outdated now and used in it's place for such things would be Laser Photo Etching which is much more detailed and realistic to hand done art work.

But when these guns were made up, Photo Chemical Etching was about the best available,,and fast and cheap.
The pattern could be etched into the steel in a matter of a couple of minutes at the depth & quality they seemed to be happy with here.

The 'U.S. Springfield' lettering may be a roll die,,I'm, not sure.
The American Eagle symbol as well.
These two markings were done on all of the H&R Trapdoor's they produced.

The scroll engraving was done to some of the Trapdoors from H&R,,but not all.
Special run/Deluxe type stuff and then I believe there were a couple different patterns of engraving,,different editions or models,,what have you.

This scroll pattern is a rather crudely hand drawn copy of some of the orig engraving found on a few of the orig Trapdoor's especially made up as presentation pieces.
The originals vary in pattern.

The H&R Trapdoors have case colored locks but I don't know if they are actually 'hardened' or not. Some doing the process back then as well as even now are colors but little or no hardness.

About all I recall,,might be wrong on some of it. It's been a while.

FWIW,,Secure the locking lug in the breech of the recv'r on the H&R's. A simple set screw will do it, Search the net will get you all the info about it.
A few of these have a tendency to pop open sometimes when fired and auto eject the fired case past your noggin.
Easy fix, makes them a good shooter.

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Re: Tuning a Harrington & Richardson side lock
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2021, 01:48:12 PM »
Hi all, and thank you all!I will deal with the locking latch, set screews its ok but must have a litle locking hole. Do plenty such jobs when I work as a industri mekanic ;)The engrawing is definety NOT a Taylor woork hehe! But $#*! its a shooter
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« Last Edit: December 19, 2021, 10:05:13 PM by Dennis Glazener »

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Re: Tuning a Harrington & Richardson side lock
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2021, 08:54:44 PM »
Given what I have learned over the years. I would not fire a repro TD. The people made/making them  didn’t/don’t quite know all they should. One guy told me the case cut a groove in his hair…
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Re: Tuning a Harrington & Richardson side lock
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2021, 02:19:50 PM »
Hi Dphariss! and thank you for your worry! Yes I am aware the problem with the locking system on H&R. I have taken care of that and when locking the gun it must not slam but gently locking. And I shoot only light blackpowder cardtriges of corse so wish me luck ;)
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