Author Topic: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification  (Read 3281 times)

Offline Robert Wolfe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1286
  • Great X Grandpa
Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« on: May 13, 2021, 07:19:18 PM »
I got a pattern makers vice on sale a few months ago and really like it but my version has a handle that sticks out on the crank that would poke me when I came in for close work. It was annoying enough that I cut off the offending handle which solved that problem. However, I found I missed the ability to quickly crank the vice open and closed. I solved this by making a removable handle that stores in the vice. It is not necessary for minor adjustments of the jaws but is nice when you have to make larger adjustments. I think the pictures are pretty self-explanatory. Not a life-changer but perhaps someone else will find this modification useful.






« Last Edit: May 13, 2021, 07:32:28 PM by Robert Wolfe »
Robert Wolfe
Northern Indiana

Offline J. Talbert

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2309
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2021, 11:21:40 PM »
I’ve had the same problem.  I may give your idea a try.

Thanks
Jeff
There are no solutions.  There are only trade-offs.”
Thomas Sowell

Offline Cory Joe Stewart

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1862
    • My etsy shop
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2021, 09:44:06 PM »
Mine snags my shirt when I try and walk away.

Good idea.

Cory Joe

Offline Craig Wilcox

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2532
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2021, 11:49:21 PM »
I have seen some with a wheel instead of the crank handle.  And that crank handle hurts after you pick up something from the floor and try to tighten the vise with your head.  If I find a nice, round wheel handle.....
Craig Wilcox
We are all elated when Dame Fortune smiles at us, but remember that she is always closely followed by her daughter, Miss Fortune.

Offline Hutch

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 164
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2021, 03:01:26 PM »
I have seen some with a wheel instead of the crank handle.  And that crank handle hurts after you pick up something from the floor and try to tighten the vise with your head.  If I find a nice, round wheel handle.....

We had a big valve at when I worked at the power plant that someone had replaced the little crappy handle with a steering wheel from some Oldsmobile, made it real nice to turn.  I bet with all the ingenuity here someone could come up with something like that.

Offline Craig Wilcox

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2532
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2021, 08:46:00 PM »
Well, DANG!  I should have thought of the steering wheel from a car made before we acquired power steering!  Actually, my last race car (Lola T-394 if anyone cares) had a 12" diameter steering wheel.  Even had a soft foam under a sewed-on leather cover.  Great for banging your head against, without all the bruising.

Saw some nice wheel handles for dressing up a small lathe, they might work, but the company (Micro-mark???) didn't want to sell just two wheels. more like the whole package.

I have two of the pattern-makers vise, as two of my workbenches are across the room from each other.  i ought to design and build a couple of those wheels, even though they need a lathe to make them.
Craig Wilcox
We are all elated when Dame Fortune smiles at us, but remember that she is always closely followed by her daughter, Miss Fortune.

Offline Robert Wolfe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1286
  • Great X Grandpa
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2021, 10:59:27 PM »
Craig, Stewmac (guitar repair supplies) sells a version of the vice with a wheel. Their vices are generally more expensive than you can find elsewhere without the wheel. But perhaps they will sell you a wheel as a replacement part?
Robert Wolfe
Northern Indiana

Offline dstock

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 171
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2021, 06:48:29 AM »
You can buy those wheels from Grainger and MSC or any industrial supply. But you will need to do some fitting.
God bless
Doug B
God Bless
Doug B

Offline alacran

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2260
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2021, 01:46:53 PM »
My problem with the vise was that it would loosen when I bumped it. Then whatever was in it would crash into the rails.  I cut all but 3/4 inch from the handle. More than enough there to turn it and I don't bump into it. However I keep a thick piece of leather over the rails just in case.
A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.  Frederick Douglass

Offline deepcreekdale

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 641
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2021, 11:29:06 PM »
Not a bad idea. A few months ago there was a similar discussion and I posted a few pictures of a similar modification I made. What I did different was make the handle pivot on a pin so it dropped down straight and could be lifted out like the original when tightening. On these vises ( I have 3 of them) I zip tie some high density foam to the rails so if anything ever slips or drops on them it doesn't leave a mark. I also fold up an old surgical towel and lay across the rails if I am feeling especially timid.
”Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing.” Theodore Roosevelt

Offline deepcreekdale

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 641
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2021, 11:52:33 PM »
Here is a picture of my modification if anyone is interested. Lets me get in a closer to the work without jabbing my gut.

”Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing.” Theodore Roosevelt

Offline Robert Wolfe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1286
  • Great X Grandpa
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2021, 01:30:25 AM »
Nice! A much more elegant solution than mine.
Robert Wolfe
Northern Indiana

Offline Frozen Run

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 961
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2022, 07:58:46 PM »
I really appreciate this sort of thinking, tools aren't sacred, they work for you and not the other way around. I was helping one of my instructors mount some new vices in the classroom not too long ago. Brand new and shiny vices out of the box, I had just got done meticulously measuring and double checking and mounting them so I took a step back to admire my work thinking I was done and the first thing he did was walk around with a file and knock off all the sharp corners and edges. It was a very valuable learning experience.

Offline Tim Crosby

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 18391
  • AKA TimBuckII
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2022, 09:05:00 PM »
 That stock looks really wide. What are you working on?

   Thanks, Tim

Offline Terry Reynolds

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 274
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2022, 11:59:39 PM »
Whacked mine off about 2 year ago!

aka “digger658”

Offline Fly Navy

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 147
Re: Pattern Maker's Vice Modification
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2022, 07:32:18 AM »
I don't a problem with mine, however my wife is always bumping it when she walks by.