Chambers Lock and Buckeye barrel

[thecapgunkid]

At Kempton this past weekend Barbie delivered my .58 swamped for the Marshall Rifle.  I was surprised to see that Buckeye Barrels come from Rice.

She also delivered my Early Germanic Lock, explaining several weeks ago  that they assemble their locks from components   and are sticky concerning quality.  My question is, who makes the lock components and stocks?

It is hard to think of a supply and production chain that works as well as theirs to produce such great products in the end.
Thanks
Greg
Capgun

[Mike Brooks]

I'd ask Barbie all of those questions.

[smart dog]

Hi Greg,
I am sure they made all the prototypes for the molds and have a foundry cast them for them.  It is not like someone else developed the parts that they are assembling.   Their Siler locks were originally developed by Bud Siler but Chambers improved the lock design over the years.

dave

[thecapgunkid]

That's what I thought, Smart Dog, but I didn't think to ask until after I left.  IN any case, I've never had a Chambers lock that failed to drop sparks all the way to the floor nor a barrel that failed to group. 

[Kevin Houlihan]

Buckeye Barrels is the name of the internal company that supplies the barrels and not the manufacturer.

[smart dog]

Hi Greg,
Below is the Chambers lock.



Here is the original.




The original lock is straighter on the bottom.  The curved Chambers plate is hard to position to get the original wrist architecture right.  I built my version using an M&G Albrecht lock that was extensively modified.















The Chambers gun makers lock might also work.  I just find that versions using the Chamber early German or Davis jaeger locks just don't look like the original gun.








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dave

[frogwalking]

Iuded a Chamber's Don Johnson lock a few years ago.  It had a little curve, and seemed to fit with the stock just right.  You may want to look at that one.

Frog

[bob in the woods]

Has it ever been questioned as to whether or not the lock presently on the Marshal
rifle is the original ?  It seems like it could be an early replacement ie original to the period ?

[rich pierce]

Has it ever been questioned as to whether or not the lock presently on the Marshal
rifle is the original ?  It seems like it could be an early replacement ie original to the period ?

The gun was extensively studied by John Bivins and others who disassembled it and concluded it is the first and only lock the gun has had. The lock itself has some in-use repairs. If I recall the cock was broken at some point and brazed back together.

[bob in the woods]

Has it ever been questioned as to whether or not the lock presently on the Marshal
rifle is the original ?  It seems like it could be an early replacement ie original to the period ?

The gun was extensively studied by John Bivins and others who disassembled it and concluded it is the first and only lock the gun has had. The lock itself has some in-use repairs. If I recall the cock was broken at some point and brazed back together.

Thank you very much, Rich. I figured that someone would know the answer.  I know that I've seen some of these historical pieces photographed with different locks ,depending on the time of the photos. One example is even included in RCA 1 I believe. 

[smart dog]

Hi Bob,
I thought as you did when I first saw photos of the gun.  However, having seen the original close up I am convinced it has its original lock.  The rifle was heavily used and it shows.  It was no wall hanger.

dave

[Marvin S]

Per the Chambers website the barrels are sourced from four different manufacturers. If you want a particular brand out of the four you need to state which and maybe wait some time for it.

[J Shingler]

Years ago Jim only used Getz barrels but then they started selling more kits than Getz could produce the barrels for in the time they needed them. So Jim and Barbie created Buckeye Barrels and they included Getz, Rice and I forget who, but I believe a third producer for the octagon to round barrels. All quality pieces and I have built most of Chambers kits and all of the barrels they supplied were of top quality.

[Craig Wilcox]

I want to use the lock that Dave has, as it comes so nicely engraved!

I do prefer the more gently curved lock, as it is much easier to then have a nice wrist area - the more abruptly curved lock is harder to get the wrist done to my liking.