Author Topic: having trouble  (Read 2347 times)

Offline yip

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1050
having trouble
« on: November 01, 2022, 05:17:01 PM »
  having trouble with the toe plate on a B/C rifle, is there any other way to make a latch other than that on the toe plate that correct?

Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

  • Member 3
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12671
Re: having trouble
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2022, 08:34:34 PM »
What seems to be the problem yip?
D. Taylor Sapergia
www.sapergia.blogspot.com

Art is not an object.  It is the excitement inspired by the object.

Offline flehto

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3335
Re: having trouble
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2022, 08:44:47 PM »
The toeplate is easy to make...it's really just a mushroom headed shaped inlay. When inletting, some space underneath the toeplate  end  is req'd to allow the pushrod to be  pushed against the catch. One screw is  needed to attach. If a BC LR has a Pbox release, a toeplate similar to this one is req'd......along w/ the release mechanism.

Shown is  the  toeplate  and the release inside the Pbox cavity. .....Fred



« Last Edit: November 08, 2022, 04:30:23 PM by flehto »

Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

  • Member 3
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12671
Re: having trouble
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2022, 08:52:37 PM »
Another example...couldn't be much simpler!







D. Taylor Sapergia
www.sapergia.blogspot.com

Art is not an object.  It is the excitement inspired by the object.

Offline yip

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1050
Re: having trouble
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2022, 09:00:20 PM »
  boy you guys do some mighty fine work! one foot in forward the other,i'll keep trying!

Offline flehto

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3335
Re: having trouble
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2022, 09:19:22 PM »
Locating the "head" of the toeplate  can sometimes be a problem so I drill the pushrod hole first and then center the "mushroom" head over the hole and make the rest of the toeplate......Fred


Offline yip

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1050
Re: having trouble
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2022, 12:05:18 AM »
  Fred i guess i did it wrong i got the mushroom i inlayed first

Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

  • Member 3
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12671
Re: having trouble
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2022, 06:53:42 PM »
Yip:  installing the toe plate first might lead to issues with where the pushrod needs to go.  It needs to be far enough forward not to interfere with the lower buttplate screw, is all.
D. Taylor Sapergia
www.sapergia.blogspot.com

Art is not an object.  It is the excitement inspired by the object.

Offline flehto

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3335
Re: having trouble
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2022, 06:48:07 AM »
Terry....here's a pic of a BC toeplate surrounded by a brass inlay. thought I'd do something different, but it's not HC. The actual toeplate has a "mushroom" end which is HC.



« Last Edit: November 04, 2022, 06:51:47 AM by flehto »

Offline yip

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1050
Re: having trouble
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2022, 06:53:03 PM »
  Fred; believe or not i made a toe plate like the one you posted resently, now to play with the catch.  how long is it?

Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

  • Member 3
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12671
Re: having trouble
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2022, 07:47:59 PM »
Yip:  study the pictures I posted of a Buck'sCo. box in the opened position.  There is no set length for anything here.  I usually made the catch spring first and set it into the end grain of the butt under the buttplate.  When I make the catch and silver solder it to the patchbox lid, I do not cut the notch in it until the spring catch is installed.  Then I black the peg with felt pen, close the lid and see where the catch on the spring has stopped.  Then I cut a very fine nick in the peg and try it again.  I repeat this process until the catch spring holds the lid shut, without any extra travel so there is no slop.
D. Taylor Sapergia
www.sapergia.blogspot.com

Art is not an object.  It is the excitement inspired by the object.

Offline yip

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1050
Re: having trouble
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2022, 12:00:27 AM »
 TAYLOR; i'm trying like $#*! to follow you guys, you guys are great and hope to endever  this the best  can

Offline Dave B

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3132
Re: having trouble
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2022, 08:54:03 PM »
Here is a diagram of the possible way to do the  push rod to the toe plate.


virtual dice roller

You can just draw a straight line from the center of the mushroom to the spring catch and skip doing the off set push rod. I have done it both ways and they both work fine.


Dave Blaisdell

Offline yip

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1050
Re: having trouble
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2022, 09:29:00 PM »
  GREAT JOB FELLAS! WHAT I NEED IS THE SIZE OF THE PUSH ROD TO RELEASE THE LID. I'M GOONA TRY THE LAST POST THAT FRED DID.

Offline Dennis Glazener

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 19483
    • GillespieRifles
Re: having trouble
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2022, 09:57:17 PM »
  GREAT JOB FELLAS! WHAT I NEED IS THE SIZE OF THE PUSH ROD TO RELEASE THE LID. I'M GOONA TRY THE LAST POST THAT FRED DID.

I used a 1/4 inch straight round rod with the one toeplate release button that I made several years ago. I think I drilled a 5/16 inch clearance hole for the rod to go through.
Dennis
"I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend" - Thomas Jefferson

Offline flehto

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3335
Re: having trouble
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2022, 04:33:58 PM »
I use a 1/8"  or 1/16  dia push rod....Fred