Early American Rifle?

[jruff5585]

 Here's my best guess. My research has not gotten me far. American made, Germanic, Swiss influence made 1740 60?
44 1/2" swamped Barrel 1 1/4" at the breech, 3/4" at the narrowest 1" at the mussel  20 lands and grooves and bottom bayonet lug, front end of flats look to have wear from a bayonet, 75 Cal. Butt plate 2" wide, convex lock 5" long

[Daryl]

Very interesting rifling and dovetailed for a rear sight at some time.
The rifling appears to be filed out deeper right at the muzzle which appears to be common.

[jruff5585]

I'll try to get a better pic with the plug out and cleaned up


upload pic

[rich pierce]

It could have straight rifling.
It would be fun if it was American made but it would be a re-stock. I can’t see it being scratch-built here. No reason to do so. Trade goods were cheaper than American labor. A lot of leaning one way or the other would depend on an analysis of the wood. Scandi guns used some unusual wood on low-end or working-man’s guns as Euro walnut was not commonly grown there. The furniture could be from anywhere but the usual suspects.

[Bill Paton]

Jruff,

With a bore of 75 cal at the muzzle, and a swamped waist of 3/4”, might the bore be flared at the muzzle like a blunderbuss?

Bill Paton

[jruff5585]

I have the barrel off and plug out so I will be able to get good measurements and pics. the barrel is rifled, twisted not straight

[jruff5585]

ok here are the barrel measurements 1 5/16th  breech  15/16th muzzle  5" back from muzzle 13/16th. 65 cal.  I'll get the lock next

[jruff5585]

This is why I think it is Germanic, both locks are very similar. Both engraved with a single line around the perimeter and no screws protruding though the lock. the length of the barrel made me think it was American. The lock also has a fly
Like I said, MY best guess

[JV Puleo]

It looks like a reconversion to me with that large bushing in the touch hole and the slightly awkward pan. If you discount the external lock parts, the lock could easily be English which would suggest a restock using a new lock and parts from an older Germanic rifle.

[rich pierce]

It looks like a reconversion to me with that large bushing in the touch hole and the slightly awkward pan. If you discount the external lock parts, the lock could easily be English which would suggest a restock using a new lock and parts from an older Germanic rifle.

I’m getting confused. The lock in the stock above is not the gun of interest, right? And the lock outside the gun, alone, is from the gun of interest. I think.

What’s the gun stocked in? Has anybody seen this sort of buttplate return and engraving? Odd sideplate? Unusual guard?

[jruff5585]

The top lock is mine, The bottom lock is an early German Jaeger lock for comparison as to why I thought my rifle had Germanic influence, that's all. After rereading the post I see it was confusing. Hope this clears it up   

[jruff5585]

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I’m getting confused. The lock in the stock above is not the gun of interest, right? And the lock outside the gun, alone, is from the gun of interest. I think.

that is correct it was just one I was comparing mine to
Once again I must apologize.
I am dyslexic and sometimes I need to read things that I write 3 or four times to catch mistakes