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Offline t.caster

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English Gents Sporting Rifle- Update
« on: March 06, 2024, 10:40:17 PM »
Just started one of these using Chambers parts & Rice .58 cal. barrel and using my walnut blank. The tang of the breech stands above the barrel about 3/32" and I have seen some that are humped up so a round groove was used as rear sight. That might be for fowlers but not needed if using a rear rifle sight. 

Not being that familiar with these 1740-50 English rifles, should I file this down to the level of the barrel?



This is on an English Fowler by Dave Person.



I searched here for images but in the two posts I found, the pics were no longer available.
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Re: English Gents Sporting Rifle ??
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2024, 11:36:24 PM »
File it down.
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Re: English Gents Sporting Rifle ??
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2024, 12:36:04 AM »
I'd file it flush with the barrel, on all flats.

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Re: English Gents Sporting Rifle ??
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2024, 01:19:47 AM »
Hi,
Generally, they would be flat and flush with the barrel unlike many fowlers from the same period.

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Re: English Gents Sporting Rifle ??
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2024, 01:30:27 AM »
Looking forward to see how it turns out!   8)

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Re: English Gents Sporting Rifle ??
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2024, 07:15:29 PM »
I am of the opinion to make it flush but I was cruzin through the Antique dept here and this Turvey breach loading flint lock rifle has what apears to be a slight hump at the standing breach. It is no where as high as the fowler breach shown and has no groove. food for thought. https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=80356.0
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Re: English Gents Sporting Rifle ??
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2024, 08:13:12 PM »
Dave, I'd leave the hump in the standing breech.  The Andrew Verner rifle I re-created several years ago has a hooked breech and it too has a hump at the break-off.  After filing, it is hardly noticable, but adds a certain je ne sait pas.  Here's a picture...



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Re: English Gents Sporting Rifle ??
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2024, 04:22:06 AM »
I’d leave it there and incorporate some interesting filed cove and bead work. BJH
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Re: English Gents Sporting Rifle Update
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2024, 09:46:59 PM »
Some March Madness fun with inlays!




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Re: English Gents Sporting Rifle Update
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2024, 03:59:25 AM »
Yowsa!  Gonna be cool.
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Re: English Gents Sporting Rifle Update
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2024, 04:13:08 AM »
  This is impressive... Following

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Re: English Gents Sporting Rifle Update
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2024, 11:18:13 PM »
Just got it stained, using James Klein's Honey Brown. Customer asked for a Chestnut tone on Black Walnut. The arrow on the chart is pointing to "Chestnut Brown". I think I nailed it!








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