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Load for a Jacob Dubbs .62 smooth rifle
« on: July 15, 2016, 03:16:25 PM »
... i'd recommend first going the easy way with a .600" ball and a good greased .010" tight yarn cotton patch, then work up to  .018".

actually, if the bore is truly .620", and the ball  is truly .600", a .010" greased cotton patch will slide down the tube quite nicely with just a tad of effort, as it does for me and my chris walker smooth rifle.  plus, do the math -  .600" + .010" + .010" = .620", the bore size (we think).  without any grooves to accept excess gathered patching, ramming home a ball patched with some materials much thicker than .010" could be, er, interesting ......

whence i attempted to patch with quality tight yarn .015" cotton patching it was a chore to get the ball down the barrel's throat let alone into its tummy.  uh uh, loading and shooting shouldn't be a chore, sez me to me.  bench fired accuracy at both 25 and 50 yards for both the .010" and .015" thick patching was the same, for me, with 60-75 grains of swiss 3f.

some local shooter friends have said that their tighter yet .018" patching worked just fine, but i wonder what effort it took to ram down such a configuration and was there any worthwhile added accuracy?  as always, experimentation is required.



not often, but sometimes luck intervenes and i can hit the mark ...


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Load for a Jacob Dubbs .62 smooth rifle
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2016, 04:15:07 PM »
Interesting....and not arguing the point, but I have never had any issues with a .600 RB and .018 to .020 patch in a .620 smooth bore. Loads easy. Do have to use a short starter though.
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Re: Load for a Jacob Dubbs .62 smooth rifle
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2016, 08:02:03 AM »
Interesting....and not arguing the point, but I have never had any issues with a .600 RB and .018 to .020 patch in a .620 smooth bore. Loads easy. Do have to use a short starter though.

Taylor has been loading a non-choked 20 bore, with .608" dead soft lead balls and .021" to .022" denim- no problem - no need to wipe either.  The next ball and patch cleans the last one's fouling. Yes there is compression and NEVER any fouling buildup.
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Re: Load for a Jacob Dubbs .62 smooth rifle
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2016, 08:51:48 PM »
The smooth bore Daryl is referring to is my Chambers Penn. fowler.  the bore is .620 (Longhammock barrel).  I cast pure lead balls in a .600 Lyman mold that throws balls at .608"  I use .018" to .022" cotton patch material with either spit or neatfoot oil, and yes, I use a starter, and the 3/8" hickory rod to load.  It loads easily all day long and I get very nice accuracy with this fine piece.

In my .62 cal RIFLE, which has a rifle barrel, I load pure lead balls from a .610" Lyman mold that throws balls at .613".  I use the same patching, but the rifle prefers .022" + patching.  Very nice accuracy, and again, loading is practically effortless.
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Re: Load for a Jacob Dubbs .62 smooth rifle
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2016, 04:11:07 AM »
I use the same thickness patches in my choked 20 bore, which has a .615" bore, with a .595" ball. The starter puts them past the choke to the .620" bore, when the load almost by the weight of the rod. The patches are re-usable - no gas cutting, go figure. I am betting on 'some' obturation - same in my .58 rifle with the progressive depth rifling.
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