pistol grip stocks

[smylee grouch]

When did the English gun makers start making rifles with pistol grip stocks instead of using the steel trigger guards with a grip rail? Before 1800 or after?

[Mike Brooks]

After. In fact it's very rare to see one in  the flint period...not sure I ever have but I have learned here you can never say never.

[Bob Roller]

After. In fact it's very rare to see one in  the flint period...not sure I ever have but I have learned here you can never say never.

Wasn't Davy Crockett given a pistol grip long rifle?
I don't remember if it was flint or percussion but
do remember it was an ugly one.

Bob Roller

[smylee grouch]

I remember seeing a picture of the Davy Crockett rifle, and I thought it was rather ugly too but I was curious about British guns in particular.

[Dave B]

There are several military arms that had pistol grips on them. There are examples in the book British military arms 1650-1850 by Howard Blackmore. There is a pair of Baker muskets with pistol grips as well dated 1822. The Baker rifle carbine on page 147 has one. The presentation Baker on pg 167 has one as well. It is dated 1822 and a flintlock.

[Dave B]

There are several sporting arms that are in the book showing the the guns of the Windsor collection. They say 1800-10 for dates. I don't see any thing earlier than that. Two of the double flint SXS's look very cool.