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Jim Cook

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Jagged Tip
« on: January 01, 2011, 02:49:10 AM »
I would like to machine my own jagged tip (brass with steel thread).
How much smaller is the diameter of a jagged ramrod tip compared to the diameter of the muzzle bore?

Offline Dennis Glazener

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Re: Jagged Tip
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2011, 04:51:01 PM »
Not trying to be smart but, make it the size that feels right for you. I always make mine a little oversize then using my patch/barrel combo I take off .005 at a time until I get it the tightness I like. Doesn't take long.
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Re: Jagged Tip
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2011, 05:22:29 PM »
I'm using a 'store-bought' jag labeled  for a .32 in my .36 barrel, and like it.   It allows the cleaning patch to be pushed to the breech without pushing too much fouling down the bore ahead of it, then grips the patch and bunches it up to pull a lot out towards the barrel.  I'm also using a labeled .36 jag in my .40.   So, I'd say that .040 to .060 under size works for me and the cleaning patching I'm using.

Lately, I haven't been experiencing the vacuum sucking the cleaning patch off the jag and back down the bore like I used to with a tighter patch/jag combo, either. 

Like Dennis said, whatever feels right to you.


Offline Roger Fisher

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Re: Jagged Tip
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2011, 08:19:57 PM »
I'm using a 'store-bought' jag labeled  for a .32 in my .36 barrel, and like it.   It allows the cleaning patch to be pushed to the breech without pushing too much fouling down the bore ahead of it, then grips the patch and bunches it up to pull a lot out towards the barrel.  I'm also using a labeled .36 jag in my .40.   So, I'd say that .040 to .060 under size works for me and the cleaning patching I'm using.

Lately, I haven't been experiencing the vacuum sucking the cleaning patch off the jag and back down the bore like I used to with a tighter patch/jag combo, either. 

Like Dennis said, whatever feels right to you.


The wasp body style jag (read skinny in the waist area) enables the patch to double up behind the jag head and cleans on the way out.  Of course if the moon phase is wrong it can bind in a slighty pitted./dry bore also.. ::)

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Re: Jagged Tip
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2011, 08:26:53 PM »
Roger, do you have a photo of a wasp body style patch?  I have never seen one.  All mine are straight sided and your suggestion sounds better.

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Re: Jagged Tip
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2011, 08:47:40 PM »
On my .45 cal jag using a lathe I turn a brass rod about 5/8" to 3/4" long and .425" in diameter to start. I then taper the jag from front to back .025" to .035" in diameter and add grooves with a threading tool .020" to .030" deep every .040" to .050" angling back to the rear. I then drill and tap (use a under size drill for a force fit) for a 10 X 32 stainless steel screw that will protrude from the back end 1/2". I solder this screw in place. The nose of the jag is also "cupped" with a ball end mill to the contour of the lead ball. Never had a problem pushing fouling back to the breach. Note: the diameter of the jag is also dependent on the thickness of the  cleaning patch that you are using - change the jag diameter to complement the patch thickness. ;)
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