Sorting out the Molls

[Bob Smalser]

Like I did with the Newhards and Rupps, I've applied the existing references (much of which Brent Wade Moll had already incorporated into his website) to the various Latter Day Saints databases to build a pedegree....and post it here for additions/deletions/corrections and comment.

Included are all the Molls who according to census or family history data worked in the Allentown or Hellertown gunshops at any time in their lives, even if they were apprentices or workerbees who later went on to other professions.

It's easier to sort out the players if you have a one-page roster.  This, plus a new research work on early Indian conflicts and pending commentary from KRA researchers will eventually be incorporated into the Newhard monograph.

Locations:

…son John Moll III (1796-1883) of Allentown…
…nephew James Moll (1804-1870) of Allentown…
…sons Peter Moll (1799-1879) and David Moll (1807-1853) of Hellertown…
…son Nathan Moll (1814-1892) of Bucks County and later Ohio and Iowa…
…grandson Reuben Moll (1834-unk) of Hellertown and later Missouri…
…grandson Samuel Moll (1838-1915 of Bucks County and later Ohio and Iowa…
…grandsons William Henry Moll (1825-1889) and Josiah Daniel Moll (1838-1873) of               …Allentown…
…grandsons William Moll (1836-1877) and Edwin Moll (1838-1900) of Hellertown…
…grandsons Peter Moll II (1847-1883) and John Jacob Moll (1849-1909) of Hellertown…
…grandsons Thomas Moll (1852-unk) and David Moll Jr (1849-1926) of Hellertown…
…grandson-in-law George Lee (1825-1889) of Hellertown (Note 10).
…and great grandson Henry Thomas Moll (1860-1913) of Allentown (Note 11).
 

[Shreckmeister]

Bob,  Was Johannes (John I) the same man as Captain John Moll of
the Northumberland Militia?  I would like to see an example of his rifles
if possible.

[Bob Smalser]

Bob,  Was Johannes (John I) the same man as Captain John Moll of
the Northumberland Militia?  I would like to see an example of his rifles
if possible.

I don't think so, but who this "Captain John Moll" might be is worth some looking.  Do you know the year?  Herman Rupp, who is thought to have worked for John Moll I during the war years, remained in the militia, eventually rising to the rank of Brigadier.

Dennis Kastens Vol IV p54:

 He (Johannes Moll) was enrolled as a Private in the Allentown militia company during the revolution.  PA Archives 5th Series Vol 8 pp 85, 230, 336.  He served one tour of duty in national service as a substitute for Mich. Cline for 22 days beginning Aug 9, 1781.  Ibid p322.  He was occupied in the military gun repair shops established in Allentown where huge quantities of guns and related equipment were brought in, processed, and shipped out.  After the war, he returned to making rifles in his Allentown shop.

[Shreckmeister]

I am pasting a quote from Gary Schreckengost's "Schreckengost Family Folder"
Here it is  "In order to reinforce Fort Augusta and push the raiders or "scary guests" back, if you understand my meaning here, Northumberland County called up its militia for the first time and appealed to state authorities for help. As such, Jost was enrolled at various times in Captain John Moll's Company, Lieutenant Colonel Peter Hosterman's 3rd Battalion, Northumberland County Militia Regiment (consisting mostly of Mahantango Valley Germans) from April-July, 1779. This entitles any Schreckengast to be a member of the Sons or Daughters of the American Revolution if he or she has the patience to fill out the pedigree paperwork (grandparents' birth certificates, etc.). "
Gary notes some documentation in another publication and I can't lay my hands  on it right now.

[Shreckmeister]

I found the information...pasting below:
Register of Federal United States Military Records, Vol 1, 973M2de, p.8 (Sc-Si) refers to Film roll 882886, Card #2420 "Schreckengast, John, 3 Battalion, (Northumberland County Militia) Pennsylvania, Revolutionary War, Private"
Revolutionary War 1773-1783, Index to Service Records, 973M22za, p.173, Pennsylvania 3d Battalion (Northumberland County Militia) refers to Film roll 1486078, "3 Battalion (Northumberland County Militia) Pa. John Schrekengast Appears with the rank of Pvt on a Muster Roll of Capt. John Moll's Co, belonging to the 3rd Battalion of Northumberland County Militia, Commanded by Col. Peter Hosterman in the actual service of the United States of America. Entered the 18th April (1779) and discharged the 3rd May, and entered again the 27th July and discharged the 9th August 1779."

[Bob Smalser]

This isn't conclusive, but the Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots lists two separate "John Molls" from Allentown, one is entry "PA16" and the other "PA 17".

John Moll
Location:   Allentown PA 17
Reference:   Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.3, p.  Serial: 7324; Volume: 14

John Moll
Location:   Allentown PA 16
Reference:   Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.3, p.  Serial: 7119; Volume: 6

But it's reasonably certain that gunmaker Johannes Moll was buried at the cemetery at 10th and Linden (PA16 above) and below is his burial card:



You might look through this record:  Pennsylvania in the War of the Revolution : battalions and line, 1775-1783

http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=26217