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Offline Don Getz

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John Ennis buttplate on blog site
« on: February 26, 2011, 05:51:41 PM »
Did anyone check out the "skeleton" buttplate done by John Ennis, shown on the blogsite.    Pretty fancy stuff, nicely done.   Now, can you visualize this.......a friend of mine bought a modern bolt action rifle with a similar skeleton buttplate,
checkered wood on the inside panels.  The only difference was, the checkering did not run all the way out to the metal,
there was an uncheckered portion, about 1/32" wide, all around the checkered portion which abutted up against the
metal.   Have any idea of how difficult this would be?   I guess the gunsmith who did it just wanted to prove a point, that
he could do it...........Don

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Re: John Ennis buttplate on blog site
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2011, 06:20:49 PM »
Nice work for sure.  About difficult work...  In my experience it often boils down to time and lots of it.  To be able to difficult work efficiently, now that's the ultimate.

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Re: John Ennis buttplate on blog site
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2011, 12:43:17 AM »
You guys wouldn't mind sharing the "blog site" now would you?

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Re: John Ennis buttplate on blog site
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2011, 01:14:08 AM »
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Re: John Ennis buttplate on blog site
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2011, 02:17:35 AM »
Don and John thanks for posting the beautiful buttplate and photo link.  Stuff like this gives us all great ideas.  I dont think I've ever seen a buttplate like that on any firearm ever.  Both the originator and restorer had incredible skills indeed.
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Re: John Ennis buttplate on blog site
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2011, 02:35:42 AM »
I've seen some similar on modern high end shotguns.
It'd probably work fine, until you set the butt down on a rock! :o

Nice work that John Did for sure!

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Re: John Ennis buttplate on blog site
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2011, 05:35:16 AM »
It's fairly common on high end shotguns.

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Re: John Ennis buttplate on blog site
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2011, 06:33:02 AM »
It's fairly common on high end shotguns.

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Re: John Ennis buttplate on blog site
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2011, 08:03:34 AM »
I've seen other things by John Ennis, a very talented guy.   Once saw an outstanding pair of spurs by John,  that, in
addition to longrifles, guess he gets into a lot of different things......Don

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Re: John Ennis buttplate on blog site
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2011, 06:23:27 PM »
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The only difference was, the checkering did not run all the way out to the metal,
there was an uncheckered portion, about 1/32" wide, all around the checkered portion which abutted up against the metal.   Have any idea of how difficult this would be?
First off, it says this is a "restoration" meaning all the hard work was already done.  These buttplates were originally used on high end English guns like H&H and others.  Perfect inletting of the plate is the secret.  Brownells sells them for around $100.  I am planning to put one on my Rigby LRML, but will have to make it.

As shown, full coverage is actually the easiest.  Once the plate is inlet, it is removed and the checkering is a simple matter of cross-hatching edge to edge.  Doing it with the small reveal around the edge is slightly harder.
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Re: John Ennis buttplate on blog site
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2011, 08:07:22 PM »
A bit more than symply a restoration.

This was a Steve Alexander/Lynton Mckenzie rifle. The owner wanted Ennis to skeletonize the butt plate because it was to slippery on the shoulder. Lynton engraved the comb extension on the butt plate. John pierced the butt plate, inlayed the wood into the piercing and made the small screws on the sides of the plate. He engraved it in suite to Mckenzies work. He also checkered the exposed wood in the cutout.

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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2011, 08:30:05 PM »
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A bit more than symply a restoration.
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Re: John Ennis buttplate on blog site
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2011, 06:16:40 PM »
Even Art's description grossly underestimates what when on here.  Because the BP was already fit in the solid form, skeletonizing it would leave a void with the wood well below the surface so John either had to set the entire BP forward which would be a real trick with that tapered, angled screw in the heel or he had to add a piece of wood to the butt to fill the skeletonized area.  The later would be a PITA but considerably faster and easier to do than moving the BP forward.  This was not a job for the faint of heart.  Beautiful work.

Tom