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Shadow Man

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Duplicating a Stock
« on: April 09, 2011, 01:49:52 AM »
First post, guys, so don't beat me up too badly!

I have a Traditions Pennsylvania .50 rifle that has special meaning to my family. I've laser-etched a lot of designs and messages on the brass (butt plate, trigger guard, ramrod thimbles, etc.) in memory of my brother Mark. I have never been happy with the plain walnut stock that came with the rifle though. So, I bought a beautiful, curly maple precarved blank from Ott at Gunstocks Plus with the intention of replacing the walnut stock.

Both the stock and rifle are in South Dakota at my mom's home. I live in Hawaii. I don't know when I'm going to get time to work on this project and would like to keep it moving forward.

Does anyone know a company that can duplicate this stock for me? Or would it be better to just wait until I have the the time and skills to do it myself.

Notes on the stock... it's rough-carved, the barrel channel and ramrod hole are both cut.

Thanks,
Shadow Man

Ron Brimer

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Re: Duplicating a Stock
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2011, 01:59:48 AM »
Sorry to say I think you might be in trouble duplicating your stock. From the plank might be the only way  you can go . Others might know if any one will do it, I fear it will be costly . The set up is really a big factor. good luck.
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Shadow Man

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Re: Duplicating a Stock
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2011, 02:07:14 AM »
Thanks, Ron.

Shadow Man

billd

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Re: Duplicating a Stock
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2011, 02:54:35 AM »
What do you mean by "precarved blank" ?   If it's just a blank then you have to send it along with the original stock to someone like Knob Mountain.   If it's precarved then it's just a matter of hiring someone to finish it.

Is the barrel channel in and the stock shaped?

Bill
« Last Edit: April 09, 2011, 02:59:32 AM by Bill D »

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Re: Duplicating a Stock
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2011, 03:03:45 AM »
Call or e-mai l Dave Keck at http://www.knobmountainmuzzleloading.com/

He bought Fred Millers equipment and I bet he could figure out a way to do it.  As far as the barrel channel already being cut I would think wood could be made up to fit the channel then glued in place....you are not going to reuse that stock again anyway.

just MHO.  J.D.
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Ron Brimer

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Re: Duplicating a Stock
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2011, 06:21:00 AM »
I may have confused the answer ,  as Bill said, is it a pre carved  stock meaning shaped like a gun? if so, like Bill said some one can help you finish it, or put it together for you,  If it is not shaped , along piece of wood with RR and BBL run, call D Keck as JD said. what worries me is the BBL channel , would it effect his pantograph. years ago I had FAJAN do a ML stock from my old stock. They charged for the setup. And it cost a lot more than the pre carves on the market at that time. I have delt with D Keck, his work is VERY good. If you could post a pic let the guys see  it, every one will know what direction to go with your "pre carved blank" A little more info, a lots of brains to pick.

Shadow Man

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Re: Duplicating a Stock
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2011, 10:59:37 AM »
Sorry for the confusion guys. I do appreciate your help.

The rifle and stock are in South Dakota, so I don't have them handy right away for pictures. Best I can explain is that the precarved stock has the barrel channel cut and the ramrod hole drilled. The fore-end section of the rifle looks like a 2x2 with a barrel channel cut on one side and the ramrod hole on the other. The butt end of the stock has a rough "monte carlo" shape with plenty of wood for a high comb, cheekpiece, carving etc. but you can clearly see the wrist of the stock.

I was thinking (perhaps very naively!) that the original rifle and the precarved stock could be dropped onto a duplicator and the precarved stock brought very close to the dimensions of the original. Hence, moving the stock-making process forward by getting the exterior of the stock closer to finish.

Thanks again and sorry for the time-gap in postings.

Shadow Man

billd

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Re: Duplicating a Stock
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2011, 11:38:19 AM »
If the barrel channel is already cut it will be very hard to duplicate the stock on a machine like Dave's.  The stock is shaped first then the barrel channel is done last.   
Hang around here for a while.   I'm sure others have different ideas and will chime in. 
Bill

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Re: Duplicating a Stock
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2011, 03:23:27 PM »
 as long as your  pre carved blank is  over sized , a 1 off duplicator  like a Gemini , it wouldn’t be that hard to duplicate  your existing traditions stock   even with the barrel channel cut . .
  Blocks  would have to be epoxy  in the barrel channels in for the  front centers . High speed shaping burrs would have to be used instead of  router bits  or you  could have issues with chip out along the barrel channel . .

 My question though   is why duplicate the traditions stock  ?.
 If your going to restock it , now would be a good time to   have someone inlet your parts into a much  nicer stock design . Thus you would end up with a much slimmer  and IMO much nicer rifle .

Shadow Man

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Re: Duplicating a Stock
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2011, 06:58:59 AM »
<My question though   is why duplicate the traditions stock?
<If your going to restock it, now would be a good time to  have someone inlet your parts into a much  nicer stock design . Thus you would end up with a much slimmer and IMO much nicer rifle.>

GOOD POINT! Definitely a positive there.

Shadow Man