Author Topic: Brass barreled gun (Read 8650 times)

Lucky R A · « **on:** April 12, 2011, 03:02:42 PM »

A while back I picked up a 52 cal. brass barrel inletted into a stock that was offered for sale by one of the members. It was sitting in the shop when a client stopped by, saw it and immediately put a down payment on "whatever I built out of it." He only specified that he wanted the Griffin from the Oerter gun, and a "s--t load" of silver wire.
I got to work on the project in mid March. The stock was originally cut for a stepped wrist, and it seemed to fit the era. I borrowed heavily from the Oerter gun, but used the general theme of a side opening Antes rifle for the patchbox, added a silver flower, plus a few of my own ideas. So here is the finished product. I sighted it in yesterday and it shot exceedingly well. One thing I quickly learned, the brass barrel will be a bear to keep clean, but then this gun will spend most of its life on the wall... Ron.....

Robert Wolfe · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2011, 03:19:17 PM »

Very nice! Would love to see a closeup of the griffin.

Ed Wenger · « **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2011, 03:54:41 PM »

Ron,

Very nice! I especially like what you did with the patchbox. The stepped wrist is perfect for the piece...

Ed

rich pierce · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2011, 04:11:22 PM »

Wow, that's a lot of gun.

Very nice composition, love the Antes box on that rifle.

smart dog · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2011, 07:20:46 PM »

Hi Ron,
Wonderful gun. I love the composition. Motifs like the griffen are so much fun because they allow you to escape the endless c scrolls and their variants, and stay within historical bounds. I love it.

dave

D. Taylor Sapergia · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2011, 07:54:26 PM »

I like the rifle Ron. It has a lot of charm. The stock colour is excellent. I'm surprised that you chose Antes patch box outline...actually it's his engraving that does not flow with the profile very well. But yours came out very well indeed.

Although brass tarnishes easily with black powder fowling, it does not rust like steel. So who cares if the bore is black, as long as it is smooth and of uniform inside diameter from breech to muzzle. Rust and pitting is the cancer that is death to a good shooting rifle. The brass barrel is unlikely to oxidize to that point.

Paddlefoot · « **Reply #6 on:** April 13, 2011, 07:57:31 AM »

Very nice Ron. That wire work would have made me crazy but it sure is pretty.

draken · « **Reply #7 on:** April 13, 2011, 08:02:29 AM »

She's a beauty Ron! I've always had a thing for guns with a stepped wrist, and this one is superb.

LURCHWV@BJS · « **Reply #8 on:** April 13, 2011, 12:24:54 PM »

I also would like to see a close up of the Griffen. Beautiful Rifle Gun.

Rich

alex e. · « **Reply #9 on:** April 13, 2011, 01:17:06 PM »

Awsome !!

KLMoors · « **Reply #10 on:** April 13, 2011, 01:45:24 PM »

Wow, very nice indeed!

Tom Currie · « **Reply #11 on:** April 13, 2011, 02:28:00 PM »

I like it a lot. Lots of my favorite things on that rifle. I've got one of those Marshall guards in my parts drawer for a fun project like that some day.

Tim Crosby · « **Reply #12 on:** April 13, 2011, 02:46:59 PM »

Great work Ron, outstanding layout on the wire work. What size wire is that?

Thanks, Tim C.

Acer Saccharum · « **Reply #13 on:** April 13, 2011, 02:50:44 PM »

Handsomely done, Ron. That is a beautiful rifle.

camerl2009 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 14, 2011, 10:23:12 PM »

nice gun who made the brass barrel

Telgan · « **Reply #15 on:** April 14, 2011, 11:14:59 PM »

Very nice looking piece of work. I have been surprised by how much more a brass/ gun bronze barrel weighs compared to the same profile in steel. I picked up a brass barreled fowler at a CLA show that one of the Scales brothers (Jerry, I think) made and it was considerably heavier than a steel barreled version. Just curious what your final weight might be on this one. Tom

wetzel · « **Reply #16 on:** April 15, 2011, 03:54:07 AM »

I love the looks of this gun. as far as the brass barrel and keeping it clean I would agree with Taylor. Seems like as long as its smooth inside there are no problems. Weren't many of the cannon barrels on the British ships brass to avoid the corrosion?

Ben I. Voss · « **Reply #17 on:** April 15, 2011, 05:56:19 AM »

Brass or bronze was used in the old days because it was thought to be much more clean and free of impurities than iron and therefore would make into a stronger and more precise barrel. Could also be cast into large items like cannon. I don't think corrosion resistance was much of a factor. (but I could be wrong...) Ben

Lucky R A · « **Reply #18 on:** April 15, 2011, 02:13:54 PM »

Thanks for the kind words on the gun, the approval of your peers is more appreciated than you know. I will post a close up photo of the Griffin this weekend when my son who does such, is home.
On the subject of keeping the brass barrel clean, I was referencing the exterior, in the event one wanted to keep it bright an shiny. The bore cleaned up easily, although it was discolored. I think it will clean (inside) even easier after it has been shot a bit. I do not know the manufacturer of the barrel. I purchased it from a member of the board, and thought it was probably made by Ed Rayl, but it is not marked with Ed's stamp. The only marking on the bottom of the barrel was a hand engraved notation (Cal 52) .

Cory Joe Stewart · « **Reply #19 on:** April 16, 2011, 04:05:45 PM »

Wow!

Coryjoe

Dr. Tim-Boone · « **Reply #20 on:** April 16, 2011, 08:00:23 PM »

Now that is a nice addition!!

Lucky R A · « **Reply #21 on:** April 17, 2011, 02:30:44 AM »

Several of you asked for a more detail photo of the Griffin on the brass barreled rifle, so here it is. On the original Oerter rifle the beak and the claws were made of I believe horn, but possibly bone. I opted for Sterling silver due to the clients request for silver on the rifle.

Ron

rf50cal · « **Reply #22 on:** April 17, 2011, 12:52:58 PM »

Better put a rope on him. Looks like he could fly off that stock at any minute.

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