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Offline Shreckmeister

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Some interesting accoutrements
« on: July 03, 2011, 03:44:00 AM »
Looking for information on the shaped horn with clip made of horn
and riveted to the horn with iron rivets.  Is this a drinking cup or
what would it be used for?   Also a Tin powder measure, horn
powder measure, bullet mold cherry, Breech cleaner, Bedford hammer, horn  with
original leather strap and Peter White 4 piece patchbox with Masonic
emblem I found today.  


« Last Edit: July 10, 2011, 06:43:57 PM by suzkat »
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Re: Some interesting accoutrements
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2011, 04:49:29 AM »
The first looks to me like what's used to carry a scythe stone while cutting hay or grain--the hard way. The stoke is kept handy and wet, ready for use to keep the steel sharp. I've seen a few of these.
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Re: Some interesting accoutrements
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2011, 04:59:27 AM »
don't know anything about anything ya got there just know it's cool. great find
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Re: Some interesting accoutrements
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2011, 06:08:38 AM »
I will agree with kermit. Scythe stone holder . I have a "modern" copper version of it that I use, very handy.
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Re: Some interesting accoutrements
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2011, 07:28:34 PM »
When were these scyth stone holders in use?
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Re: Some interesting accoutrements
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2011, 01:28:09 AM »
Probably in use about as long as schythes were/are. ;) Seriously, I'd say for a very long time. I expect it would be quite hard to date one, as they were likely home-made and could have come from 75 years ago or 275 years back. I know my paternal grandfather used a horn one. He was born 1880 and died 1952.
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Re: Some interesting accoutrements
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2011, 03:11:41 AM »
I was hoping that the clip being made of bent horn attached with iron rivets might
have made it easier to identify the era in which it was made.  I wouldn't imagine
it was made in the 20th century.
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Re: Some interesting accoutrements
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2011, 04:42:45 AM »
Suzkat, I have a whet stone holder made from horn dated 1853.  JIM
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Re: Some interesting accoutrements
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2011, 06:12:24 PM »
Quote from: Kermit on July 03, 2011, 04:49:29 AM
The first looks to me like what's used to carry a scythe stone while cutting hay or grain--the hard way. The stoke is kept handy and wet, ready for use to keep the steel sharp. I've seen a few of these.
I agree , have one with 1821 scrimmed on it.  hole worn in the side bottom.

I remember my ol dad talking about cutting hay with a scythe and saying how much work it was :)
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Re: Some interesting accoutrements
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2011, 09:18:04 PM »
Can anyone address that Patchbox.  I was told by the man I got it from that
it is Peter Whites.  He grew up in Bedford and has been building longrifles
for 40 years.  He's studied White extensively and says the engraving is
definitely Peter White's.   Another friend told me it's a Lancaster box.  This
conflicts with it being White to my knowledge.   Anyway, I like the box.  It
has a Masonic compass on it.  Thinking about putting it on my first build.
Any opinions on this?
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Offline Pete G.

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Re: Some interesting accoutrements
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2011, 04:40:34 PM »
Doesn't look like a typical Lancaster. They use a daisy with rounded petals.
I would not use the original box on a rifle, but would use it as a pattern. In fitting an inlay, including patchboxes,  to a stock you need to do some bending and file the surfaces to match the wood surface. Doing so would alter an original artifact. Keep it and build another for your first build.
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