Author Topic: #3 in the books... Just about (Read 8548 times)

Rootsy · « **on:** October 01, 2011, 03:50:14 AM »

As my other post states it needs a "few" more coats of oil and the blacking on the barrel needs to be knocked back a bit.

It came out OK, I guess. Surely won't take home any awards. It is amazing what shows up once you get finish on wood. I also learned the hard way that you inspect every square inch of every component before you ever take a chisel out of it's holder and strop it. The ramrod channel is out of parallel with the barrel channel side to side. Begins on center @ muzzle and is off by a 1/4" by the time it reaches the trigger guard. Subsequently the entry thimble is then off center and rotated over to the side slightly.

It is entirely my fault for not catching it before beginning to clean-up the barrel channel and inlet the tang.

Began life as an Issac Haines "kit", 38" Rice C weight swamped 54 cal. 13 3/8 LOP, Golden Age Germanic lock, simple pinned trigger, sheet brass thimbles, white lightning liner. Aquafortis for color and Tried and True Varnish Oil for finish. Color on the barrel comes from Precision Brand 2 step tool black.

For those with the skill, experience, knowledge and the eye for detail, kindly point out any areas I need to improve upon in my technique and execution. I'm still pretty new at this.

No I don't always have a clean bench (this is the exception to the rule)... I just didn't want to look like a slob @ photo time

Glenn · « **Reply #1 on:** October 01, 2011, 04:02:46 AM »

Looks pretty good to me. I'd be proud to own it !!!

smylee grouch · « **Reply #2 on:** October 01, 2011, 04:10:09 AM »

Looking good, nice crisp lines and just enough embelishment to make it stand out in a crowd. How does she shoot? Smylee

greybeard · « **Reply #3 on:** October 01, 2011, 04:11:54 AM »

Now, thats a right pert gun. Be proud. Bob

Tom Currie · « **Reply #4 on:** October 01, 2011, 04:33:41 AM »

I think your being way to hard on yourself. I think most builders are. Humble too. That's a pretty nice effort.

smart dog · « **Reply #5 on:** October 01, 2011, 04:52:04 AM »

Hi Rootsy,
Nice gun. Very clean and crisp. You did the lock panel area very well.

dave

Bill of the 45th · « **Reply #6 on:** October 01, 2011, 05:03:23 AM »

Very nice clean lined gun, but that workbench is too darn neat. Sometimes I think the carving, engraving, and overly fancy wood detracts from the style, and line of a gun. It's nice to see a rifle with simple understated lines, that show off it's architecture.

Bill

alyce-james · « **Reply #7 on:** October 01, 2011, 05:11:15 AM »

Very nice rifle. Clean and well executed work. I like it. There is one problem as I see from here. How in the _ _ _ _ do you work under such adverse conditions, in such a CLEAN area ?? Thanks, AJ

Long Ears · « **Reply #8 on:** October 01, 2011, 05:29:10 AM »

Nice and clean, great job on your inletting. The color I really like. Thanks for sharing, Bob

kutter · « **Reply #9 on:** October 01, 2011, 07:49:27 AM »

That looks nice.
Clean and simple. Uncluttered.
Carving is well done w/o the pattern being overdone. Just right to my eye.
Great job,,let us know how it shoots.

New ShopVac?

rich pierce · « **Reply #10 on:** October 01, 2011, 02:26:51 PM »

love it. Terrific carving.

satwel · « **Reply #11 on:** October 01, 2011, 04:40:49 PM »

Great job! I like that patch box very much. It has an understated elegance that fits nicely with the rest of the rifle. Did you get the patch box from a supplier or did you make it?

Rootsy · « **Reply #12 on:** October 01, 2011, 04:49:21 PM »

Quote from: rich pierce on October 01, 2011, 02:26:51 PM

love it. Terrific carving.

Rich,

Are you caught up on flints? I am going to need some 3/4.

Satwel,

It is a blank from TOTW.

Leatherbelly · « **Reply #13 on:** October 01, 2011, 06:43:52 PM »

Simply elegant.My kind of rifle. Biggest problem with this rifle is it's at your place,not mine. Great job.

wattlebuster · « **Reply #14 on:** October 01, 2011, 06:54:32 PM »

You made her look great an I really like your carving, just enough an not too much

okieboy · « **Reply #15 on:** October 01, 2011, 08:12:55 PM »

Very clean and lots to like, but it is the nice deep dark color of the finish that makes it for me.

JB2 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 02, 2011, 03:01:45 AM »

I wouldn't mind seeing more pics of it too. More gun detail, but without that workbench in the background. That just makes me uncomfortable, almost like I have to go empty a 5-gallon bucket of useless junk on it!

FRJ · « **Reply #17 on:** October 02, 2011, 04:20:32 AM »

I just have to parrot what the others have said. That Lady looks very very nice to me!!!!I simply love the cleaness of the whole carving layout, nothing gaudy just nice clean lines!!! Again very nice job and I hope that my first build, that I'm working on now will turn out half as nice. Frank

B.Habermehl · « **Reply #18 on:** October 02, 2011, 02:46:08 PM »

It seems to me the offset you were concerned about is funcional. It allows clearence for the ramrod to clear the mainspring of the lock. Nothing to sweat about. Only your obvious attention to detail will notice. I have seen this in origional work and believe it could have been deliberate. Really nice gun!

Jim Kibler · « **Reply #19 on:** October 03, 2011, 04:42:06 AM »

Rootsy,

I like your rifle. For a third gun I think it is very well done. I will provide one critique... The wood on the bottom of the stock under the lock and sideplate panels could use a little better shaping. It is hard to be certain from the photo, but it appears to be relatively flat where the guard is inlet and then has a substantial radius down the where the lock moldings are cut in. It's hard to describe, but in general this area should be much flatter from the guard to these moldings. I is also good if it continues and peeks slightly in front of the guard. This helpls cary the forestock into this region.

Rootsy · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2011, 04:50:24 PM »

Jim,

I shaped the bottom and the lock panels and then made a slight flat to inlet the trigger guard into. I think what is happening is I then incised and back cut for the molding and scraped a contour from the trigger guard to the molding to smooth it all out. The whole surface is radial outward from the C/L of the bore to the panels and I think the backside of the molding is exaggerating it.

If you can make your way through the blurriness of the photo to follow you can see how far the trigger guard sits below the side panel to bottom intersection.

If I am understanding you correctly, I should have made the area of the trigger guard mounting closer to the lock panel to bottom intersection, in effect flattening the area and not making it so bulbous?

A larger lock plate may have helped here as the ramrod hole is pretty close to the surface at the moment. I actually broke through into the ramrod channel when inletting the front trigger guard finial.

Now that the sun has decided the shine again I hopefully can get a decent background laid out (what color is most recommended) and take some more "professional" photos of it that show detail much better (without the blur).

Jim Kibler · « **Reply #21 on:** October 03, 2011, 09:35:57 PM »

From looking at the top photo you just posted and one of the previous photos it appears the area from the front guard extension to the edge of the lock and sideplate panels has a bit too much radius. It also appears to be pretty flat directly in front of the guard extension. No, the issue is not the height of this area relative the the panels, but rather just how the wood is shaped. The areas from the side of the guard to the panels should be relatively flat. Directly in front of the guard this shape can sometimes for a bit of a peak. If this doesn't make much sense, I'll see if I can't sketch some examples showing cross sections.

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