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Browning a Green Mountain Barrel
« on: October 15, 2011, 01:07:54 AM »
I have a 58 caliber Green Mountain straight barrel I'm going to use in a Hawken rifle I'm building. Question is how much do I want to polish the barrel from the way I got it? Or another way of saying it is it looks preety good right now out of the box and maybe I dont need to finish it at all? Frank

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Re: Browning a Green Mountain Barrel
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2011, 01:43:48 AM »
I'm not familiar with GM Barrels but in general I usually finish my barrels smooth with a 240 grit paper. Takes out any milling marks. If I want really smooth I use 400 grit.

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Re: Browning a Green Mountain Barrel
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2011, 02:14:03 AM »
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I have a 58 caliber Green Mountain straight barrel I'm going to use in a Hawken rifle I'm building. Question is how much do I want to polish the barrel from the way I got it? Or another way of saying it is it looks preety good right now out of the box and maybe I dont need to finish it at all? Frank
   
Unless they are better finished than the ones that I have used it will need to be draw filed then I start with 220 then go to 320 then brown or sometimes I go to 360. I think the barrel takes the browning better if I leave it there rather than go to 400 or 600 grit.
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Re: Browning a Green Mountain Barrel
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2011, 03:29:58 AM »
Dennis I really appreciate your input. This barrel just doesn't look bad to me maybe its just my lack of experience but I'm going to try to take it down with 240 grit first . Doesn't seem like I can do any harm. Frank

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Re: Browning a Green Mountain Barrel
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2011, 04:02:16 AM »
All of the GM barrels I've seen - maybe 150 - have been ground lengthwise to about 80 or 120 grit.  I always draw file them which in itself is a smoother more uniform finish than their grind.  Then I polish to 180 or 280 and brown.  If you card heavily, you may wish to polish finer, say to 320 or even 400 grit, to remove the courser marks, as heavy carding will produce a smooth and shiny finish.
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Re: Browning a Green Mountain Barrel
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2011, 04:03:15 AM »
...original barrels are often just draw filed, or so it seems to me.
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Re: Browning a Green Mountain Barrel
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2011, 05:19:44 AM »
I have not sanded a barrel in years.  They call it draw filing for a reason.
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Re: Browning a Green Mountain Barrel
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2011, 06:04:28 AM »
I have a 58 caliber Green Mountain straight barrel I'm going to use in a Hawken rifle I'm building. Question is how much do I want to polish the barrel from the way I got it? Or another way of saying it is it looks preety good right now out of the box and maybe I dont need to finish it at all? Frank

Draw file and then polish to no more the 320 or not.  A too high polish will interfere with the browning solution wetting the surface uniformly and makes the first coat more problematic.  Cold browning or rust blue will not show a higher polish anyway.
Use a sharp mill file and keep the teeth clean.


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Re: Browning a Green Mountain Barrel
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2011, 03:00:32 PM »
I would draw file anmaybe some 220 wet sandpaper. That takes browning well and removes the milling marks,not many milling machines around back in those days

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Re: Browning a Green Mountain Barrel
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2011, 06:31:06 PM »
Well as usual I bow to experience and will be draw filing the barrel, it isn't hard so I dont know why I was balking. Thanks for all the info guys. Frank

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Re: Browning a Green Mountain Barrel
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2011, 07:06:43 PM »
Green Mountain barrels are harder to draw file than some others, but the end result is the same.  Hold the file's handle in your left hand, and pull (draw) it toward you to cut.  I do half a flat at a time, then reverse the barrel and do the other half of that flat.  I hold the barrel in a piece of thick, clean leather, and never touch the barrel again, with bare fingers, until after it is browned.  So the rifle is practically finished by this stage.
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Re: Browning a Green Mountain Barrel
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2011, 04:20:50 AM »
I don't want to beat a dead horse here but believe me this barrel comes out the same after draw filing as it is before. A little polishing with 240 wet or dry and its ready to brown. Not hard to draw file and it has no more than .001 variance front to rear on a 36" barrel. I must be doing something wrong but I'm not new to using a file. Used to own a polishing and plating shop and know how to do this part of the job I hope. Frank