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LURCHWV@BJS

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Knives I've made so far.
« on: January 06, 2012, 05:38:01 AM »

   Here is the progression of knives I've been playing around building.  Please keep in mind I am in no way where I want to be with them.  I have no problem sharing my failures I make as I travel my path of learning.  Still working on the Blade-handle poportion size thingy.  Like I said. I'm still working on it.

   First picture are the first three made in order, and the source of metal from where they were made.


  Next are made from Leaf springs from a 71 3/4 ton 4X4. The top knife was a total mistake. the handle is upside down.  And I don't think I'll do the Bone/Maple thing again.

 Even though it's backwards I still like the way the pewter turned out

  The last two just trying to do better than the 4th.  I'm getting there.




  Please feel free to make suggestions,  I 'm all ears

     Rich

Offline Canute Rex

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Re: Knives I've made so far.
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 07:39:09 AM »
I like the way you are playing around with the pewter in the handles.

I'm glad you're not ashamed of your experiments. When I was teaching blacksmithing I used to tell my students that I wished I had kept the first thing I made, which was a wall hook. Partly for sentimental reasons, and partly so they wouldn't feel bad about their early efforts.

Two bits of advice:

Draw out a profile of how you want the finished knife to look. Transfer it onto a piece of sheet steel with a sharpie or a white-out pen. Then you can check the form as you go. Doing it freehand is tough. As you note, you seem to be getting somewhere with the components, but you need to think more about the transition between handle and blade, the overall sweep of the thing. Doing some sketches will help.

Buy decent steel. Admiral Steel sells in small quantities online. The cost of a knife is 5% steel, 5% hammering, and 90% finishing and heat treating. After all that labor mystery steel will quite often break your heart. For a few bucks you can know exactly how to heat treat it and you'll get a razor.

I just finished a chef's knife for my father. The form wasn't all it should be, nor the finish, but it is 1085 and the edge makes me want to throw my commercial knives in the trash. It doesn't so much cut an onion as it sort of falls through it. You can do that with the right steel and some patience.

Keep it up, Chapple, and thanks for showing your stuff.

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Re: Knives I've made so far.
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 04:37:22 PM »
Hi, thanks for sharing.  Good advice above about building to a sketch or pattern.  I have to do that whether I am making a gun, knife, bag or horn.  Of them all I like the one with the pewter in the handle the best, even if the handle was plain.  The blade has a good grind.  Keep in mind most period knoved tapered from the spine to the edge just like that.  It's easier to forge and form a blade that is flat and then has a short edge bevel but originals were seldom done that way.  I suggest you look at the work of some contemporary bladesmiths also and see how close you can come on a very simple knife.  Less focus on the pewter etc, just a finely shaped blade and handle that go well together.
Andover, Vermont

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Re: Knives I've made so far.
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 08:02:55 PM »
Using a full size drawing of what the final product will look like will help you quite a bit.  Knives are sort of like the rifles - they have a flowing beauty of form and balance.  The transition from handle to blade needs to be pleasing to the eye even if the knife is the simplest of form such as the trade knives.  Window dressing with complex pewter etc doesn't help if the pleasing form and balance isn't there.  Keep working you will get there. 

LURCHWV@BJS

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Re: Knives I've made so far.
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2012, 06:36:47 AM »
Gentlemen,
 
  Thank you all for your honesty,hmmm draw it first.  There's iron in your words.(pun intended )  Never thought of that, always just kinda shot from the hip. But seeing the logic in it I'll try it.


  Rich, you said one has a good grind. I do have a  20in treadle stone, but it needs alot of work done to it before I can use it to help shape the blades. I only use files. It takes about five hours of constant filing to get it to a sharpenable state.

  I go on long break Jan17 should be able to get a couple more trials done. Keep an eye out for them

  Rich

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Re: Knives I've made so far.
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2012, 09:54:04 PM »
Keep it up Rich; I personally like the rustic look of your knives though the general census

leans toward refinement.   Bob