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Offline cmac

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Work in progress
« on: February 11, 2012, 01:18:09 AM »
Pictures of my current build at http://cmacsflints.blogspot.com
First build I have forged the butt plate and trigger guard for. They still have some file work ahead of em. Please comment with any thoughts
« Last Edit: February 11, 2012, 01:27:37 AM by cmac »
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012, 12:31:41 AM »
This is a bit of a mix between an early Virginia and a Woodbury style. Any thoughts on the stock shape. I know I need to bring the comb to more of a point and work on the cheek piece, and lock panel areas some. Does the wrist look okay, etc? Planning on making a steel double box (patch box) as seen on American Historical services web site.
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012, 02:07:36 AM »
it's coming along nicely.  looks like a big early rifle; cool that you could work that out in a .40 caliber.
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012, 02:16:59 AM »
cmac...your pictures are too small for me to see enough detail to comment on the architecture.
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 04:50:45 AM »
Picture size increased. Appears the same on the blog but if you click on the picture you can now see a larger image. Last two pictures are the most recent. Thanks for looking
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 06:11:44 PM »
One comment I  have is that your upper forestock ( directly in front of the lock panels ) looks quite tall. The variables there are thickness of the web, diameter of RR hole and wood under the RR hole. I don't know the details you have there , but I try to keep these dimensions minimal as helps take the heaviness out of a build.

The handmade BP and TG add the to uniquenesss of your build.
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 07:27:57 PM »
The upper forearm has been left blocky for now just for holding in a vice and keeping things square. I generally leave this area alone until most of the work on lock panels and back has been done. The front of trigger guard cannot move upward much if any due to the amount of wood between rr hole and bottom of forearm. If I move it in the trigger guard lug will be stopping the ramrod short. A lot of wood removal yet to come forward of trigger guard and lock panels though
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2012, 07:49:03 PM »
CMAC, Usually my TG lug is used as a stop for the RR which is about at the breech face. I do not believe many try to get the RR hole over the top of the TG lug. All of that requires extra thickness.

Keep in mind to do not know your experience level only pointing out an option to reduce over height of the area in the quest for slimness.
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2012, 06:25:11 AM »
I understand the trigger guards forward lug normally wouldn't interfere. I forged my guard(1st one) and added my "pin lug" a bit to far forward in order to peen over the lug on the exposed surface. I soon realized that I was a touch ahead of the breach and I tried to keep the lug pinned in the area below the ramrod channel. I have looked it over and think I may be able to cheat it up some but this would leave little wood holing the pin. The only other option would be to cut the lug off and put one on further back. I can still use the same hole in the guard for the stake but will have to fill the pin hole. I learn more and more especially when making all this from scratch. This could of course be avoided if I would put more planning into things before doing. Thanks for pointing it out though
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2012, 07:11:03 AM »
Seems I buy a box of wood round toothpicks as supplies for each build ::) Mistakes happen. They are discouraging, but an excellent teacher! They won't show too badly, maybe not at all depending on where your lock moulding falls. Camoflauge is a beautiful thing!! BUT make sure you change what needs changed before you progress or you might be real unhappy later!

OK all you guys that haven't made mistakes raise your hands :D
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2012, 01:55:44 AM »
More pictures on my blog. I moved the trigger guard lug back to clear ramrod channel and raise it up on the stock. Wood was removed from above lock and around trigger guard-both to the sides of the guard and under lock panels. The 6"x2 1/4" patch box I have made is laying on top of the stock about where it is going to be. Stock shape is still a bit rough from the lock panels back and square in front toward the muzzle. Back to work now so it may be a while before I add to this post
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2012, 02:49:59 AM »
CMAC I would like to see you bring the forestock/lock and side panels down to 1/16" below center pf the side of the barrel and then add a drop in the side panel about an inch or so in front of the breech  making the last 1.5 to 2 " of the nose of the side panel much thinner from top to bottom, making the gun look thinner....Hope this makes sense.
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2012, 02:53:23 AM »
makes sense tim. i just haven't gotten to the forestock yet but tanks for the info
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2012, 01:46:47 AM »
I was just comparing the front part of the trigger guard bows location to pictures in books and magazines I have. My bow is forward in comparison by a good bit. I knew my guard was large enough for set triggers but had not thought of the tg lug being an interference with the ramrod. Live and learn I guess. All is well now with a few slight mods
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2012, 02:50:55 AM »
Gals to hear it's going well. I've done a lot of livin and learin.
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012, 06:45:11 PM »
Pictures added of double box and modified siler lock. Still needs some file work and such
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Re: Work in progress
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2012, 04:17:19 AM »
I now have my pipes inletted, forearm shaped, pewter muzzle cap, sights, barrel tenons, etc made up and installed. Stock has been scraped. I still need to carve my grove beside ramrod channel and bottom edge of butt stock. I drew on many carving ideas on that I thought would go with this piece and none suited me at all. This may be a plain Jane rifle with the scraped finish and all antiqued.
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