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Offline James

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Berks County Blueprint
« on: March 03, 2011, 11:59:27 AM »
Dixie says they no longer have the Berks County blueprint. Is there anywhere I might find one? Thank you, James
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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2011, 04:09:09 PM »
I just make mine from the RCA books as many here do. 


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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 04:55:49 PM »
You are dealing with the village idiot here (and I don't even have a village  :D) so could you explain how I can do that? Thank you, James
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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 07:20:28 PM »
Just get your parts and draw it out full size. That's what I do with every gun I build. Unless you use EXACTLY the same parts as the "blue print" it won't work anyway.
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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 08:25:18 PM »
Just using the measurements given in the headings of each rifle or do I need to be able to figure out ones that aren't given? Thank you
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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 08:36:08 PM »
Quote from: Mike Brooks on March 03, 2011, 07:20:28 PM
Just get your parts and draw it out full size. That's what I do with every gun I build. Unless you use EXACTLY the same parts as the "blue print" it won't work anyway.

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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 09:05:07 PM »
Quote from: James on March 03, 2011, 08:25:18 PM
Just using the measurements given in the headings of each rifle or do I need to be able to figure out ones that aren't given? Thank you
You go by the measurements of the parts you're going to build the gun from.
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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 09:15:08 PM »
Is there anything in print that would help me get a better understanding Mike? Are you saying that the barrel and lock would be the starting point for the calculations? I'm competent in math, but these are new concepts for me and I want to have a clear understanding. Thank you for taking the time, I truly appreciate it. Thank you, James
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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2011, 09:19:39 PM »
I do what Mike has talked about. I use the track of the wolf catalog, with full size pictures of the parts and having made copies of them place them on butcher paper with the barrel drawn in and fill in the blanks. Profile pictures can be enlarge using one of the projector scopes on to a wall and give you the exact size you need to fit the parts you have. Some will take a picture to kinkos and enlarge the photo till it fits the dimension needed. If you are unsure with how it will hold make a Quaker stock from pine to get a feel for it. I always just shape and try the actual stock till it feels right vs the Quaker stock. This is the best part about doing what we do. The lay out and releasing the shape from with in the wood is one of the joys you miss with a pre-carve. Its kind of a spiritual experience with me i guess.
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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 09:56:13 PM »
Quote from: James on March 03, 2011, 09:15:08 PM
Is there anything in print that would help me get a better understanding Mike? Are you saying that the barrel and lock would be the starting point for the calculations? I'm competent in math, but these are new concepts for me and I want to have a clear understanding. Thank you for taking the time, I truly appreciate it. Thank you, James
Yes, the barrel lock and buttplate are the most important parts that will dictate what your gun will look like. I don't know nothin bout no math, if that was needed I'd be out of business.
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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2011, 02:17:54 AM »
James,

Mr Okie is working on a Chunk Gun build and is documenting the process. You will find the explanation of what you are asking for here:

Stock Layout

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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2011, 05:20:03 AM »
Thank you all, it is greatly appreciated. James
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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 07:45:47 AM »
If it's understanding of the order of operations and priority of design features that is worrying you I'd say you should get "Recreating The American Longrifle" .  Pretty good explanation in there of how to design your gun and how to adjust the dimensions to fit the shooter.
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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 11:02:01 AM »
I wonder if he ever got started?
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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 01:44:20 PM »
Dave Keck has many different blueprints besides the few he has on his website.  I don't know about Berks county.  Email him and ask.   He's at the Baltimore Show now.   

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Re: Berks County Blueprint
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2012, 04:28:56 PM »
I love the one he calls "Fred's Reading".  Would love to have that buttstock profiled on paper for a layout.
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