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Offline Eric Smith

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Bonewitz profile
« on: May 07, 2012, 12:46:13 AM »
   I have collected a few profile drawings to use as models for builds, such as a JP Beck, a J Rupp, and I have learned to make exact dimension photo copies of anything in RCA I & II, thanks to their dimensions being listed. The photoshop I used make a perfect copy of # 28 & # 35. Measures exactly as the book lists. Just used the  length of pull and bingo. Of course the math was way over my head but the guy at the photo shop is still young enough to remember his , almost, he did use a calculator.
  The one that eludes me is a Bonewitz. There are no examples of his work in RCA. The Kindig book has some but there are no dimensions to work with. Plus the pics stop short of the trigger.Does anyone have any suggestion as to how I could come up with an exact profile of a Bonewitz. I see posts here of others who create Bonewitz copies. What do you use. # 28 is obviously a Haga rifle, but Haga and Bonewitz are not the same at all.
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Re: Bonewitz profile
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 02:06:59 AM »
I was able to hold an original Bonawitz  a month ago and I want to say I measured the trigger pull at  13. 1/2" . There are three rifles in  Thoughts on the Kentucky Rifle in the Golden Age.TKRGA on pages 208-212 The length of the whole rifle is listed on each.
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Re: Bonewitz profile
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 01:15:12 PM »
     You could always pack your stock and barrel up and send it to Dave Keck at Knob Mountain Muzzleloading.  Have him inlet your barrel, drill the ram rod channel and profile the stock to the Bonewitz pattern.  Dave has Fred Miller's patterns and Fred's Bonewitz pattern was taken right from an original. 
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Re: Bonewitz profile
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 02:09:07 PM »
What Lucky said.
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Re: Bonewitz profile
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 08:29:16 PM »
You can't go wrong with that advice.

Then you will have the general shape of your butt stock up through the lock panels.  The rest is up to you.

http://knobmountainmuzzleloading.com/images/bonewitz2.JPG

Enjoy, J.D.
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Re: Bonewitz profile
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 11:54:47 PM »
All very good suggestions and I have looked longingly at the Bonewitz at Knob Mountain. But I have a hankering to carve that blank into a Bonewitz myself. I just have to find a way to produce a paper profile of the buststock I can transfer to wood. There must be a way. I just haven't stumbled over it , yet.
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Re: Bonewitz profile
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 12:59:54 AM »
All very good suggestions and I have looked longingly at the Bonewitz at Knob Mountain. But I have a hankering to carve that blank into a Bonewitz myself. I just have to find a way to produce a paper profile of the buststock I can transfer to wood. There must be a way. I just haven't stumbled over it , yet.

As far as trasfer, scan, scale, and print it out at proper size, cut around the profile and tape with transparent tape to blank, after positioning for best grain flow through wrist as best you can.  Then just cut it out in profile with a generous margin to account for run-out, etc..  This worked for me -- there may be several better ways!  I actually sliced off a 1/2" section that I will clean up and use as a template in the future.  If you transfer the paper to heavy cardboard or light plywood and then cut that out, it would be even better, as you could trace around it and keep it for reference.  I found the printed picture handy for lock, trigger, etc., positioning.

There was a recent thread on sizing and printing (or otherwise producing) a scaled picture -- you dont even have to have a computer, although it is harder without one.

If it is your first, just use the pre-carve -- plenty to learn even starting there! 

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Re: Bonewitz profile
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 01:20:52 AM »
I find the precarvew to be limiting, so I chose to start with a blank. Might be harder for some, but seems esier to me.
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Re: Bonewitz profile
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 03:52:10 AM »
If you intend to build a Bonewitz styled rifle, a good first step would be to gather as many photos of existing Bonewitz rifles you can.  To study some first hand would be an added benefit, but is not always possible.  With this information a pattern can be worked out.

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Re: Bonewitz profile
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2012, 05:38:49 AM »
If you can't get your hands on one.  Give Dave Keck a call and ask what he would charge just to do a precarve of just the buttstock, locks back in any old hunk of wood.....not the whole stock.

I don't know, but he might do that cheep enough then you have a "model" to go by for architectural purposes to do yours from your blank....a pattern if you will.  If he is willing to do it, it shouldn't cost near as much as a whole stock.  And heck, after your done with it you could pass it around.

Just an idea and it doesn't hurt to ask.  Enjoy, J.D.
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